Hi, I am right there with you Kate. I too fed Eagle Pack and was really pleased with it. But I started to notice the dogs not doing as well on it. Looser stools, always hungry (for my male), and their coat were loosing their shine. We had talked about trying the Orijen before, but the dogs were doing so well on what they had there didn't seem any reason to switch. My first switch over was actually for the cat. He is a very big boy (and is supposed to be loosing weight), Orijen (chicken formula) did really well for him. He was actually leaving kibble behind, because he was satisfied. So about two and a half months ago we switched the dogs to Orijen (fish formula). Connor (my sensitive one) has never had such firm consistant stools (I can actually pick up after him with one bag, instead of two or three). And coat, wow... Kenna lost all her hair after I showed her in the beginning of June, but had all but her pataloons back for the Specialty mid July. I am very pleased with the results of it so far. Debbie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================