In a message dated 9/13/2007 8:52:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, legatogsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have no faith in the DJD diagnosis. I had a male dog who was a real baby. He supposedly had DJD but never limped on it. He lived to be 11. Died of kidney failure. Have a bitch now who has DJD, supposedly. She's 6 now, and no signs/symptoms. She stopped jumping and I thought we might be having a problem, but it turns out she had a ruptured anal gland. :( Both of the dogs mentioned had really great shoulders, with really nice front reach. The bitch probably more so than the dog. At 6 years old now, she will still make you catch your breath when she takes out in that big, extended flying trot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Makes me wonder how many good animals were sold as pets or destroyed because of OFA and DJD? Now when we talk Osteochondritis dessicans (OCD), ununited anconeal process (UAP), and fragmented coronoid process (FCP).to me that's true elbow dysplasia. Patty Szymczak ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================