In a message dated 9/12/2007 5:49:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: I have had four over the years come back grade 1 (interestingly enough, the first later went right through OVC, and after that I didn't bother w/ the rest). The oldest is 6 or 7 now. I co-owned her after she had finished, x-rayed her at almost 60 months before I bred her and one elbow came back grade 1. To my knowledge, she never limped a day in her life. The next oldest will be 7 this coming June. Finished easily, never limped, he's an active dog w/ 2 herding titles, and pretty as a picture coming at you (he's also the one that got the OVC #/letter). I know it's not a popular sentiment, but I really don't think the OFA has a clue what to do with DJD in elbows. My vets won't even call it. They'll take a picture, use the special light the OFA is supposedly using to read them then make a funny face:) ------------------------------------------------------------------ I've had 2 come back over the years with DJD Gr 1 in one elbow...Both are certified with the OVC. Both dogs have never limped a day in their lives and one is almost 11 yrs. old...she blind from pannus but hasnt limped. Patty Szymczak AOE 2xCan Sel. 2xAm Sel. Exc. Am/Can Ch. Utopia's Cliche, RN, TC, CGC, OFA H/E AOE Sel. Ex. Ch. Utopia's Let Freedom Ring, RN, CGC TC, OFA H/E Ch. Pagairs Smokin Gun, TC OFA H/E www.pagairs.com ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================