In a message dated 12/8/2005 7:52:09 AM Central Standard Time, pruett@xxxxxxxxx writes: Also, OFA is not the be = all and end all. We all know of animals that OFA pronounced dysplastic = that, when re-exrayed and submitted to a different OFA panel, passed. = And, we all know often times board certified radiologists and Canada's OVC = disagree with OFA's evaluations of hip and elbow status. So, while I use = OFA as a tool, I do not let OFA dictate my breeding decisions. I really hope everyone will read your email....OFA has alot of holes...alot!!!! This just happened to us with OFA...I sent in July beautiful hip and elbows to the OFA... it came back Dysplastic left hip subluxed....both elbows djd grade one....I was beyond livid. I called OFA talked to Keller he feels the dogs elbows are good...and that he is mild dyplastic in one hip due to POSITIONING...WHY IN THE HELL DIDNT THEY JUST SEND THE XRAYS BACK INSTEAD OF GIVING A MILD DYSPLASTIC. After I calmed down, my poor vet...he could not believe it...he asked whos xrays they were looking at. He rexrayed him front and rear....sent the original elbows to the OVC...who I trust...they are the oldest veterinary college in the northern hemiphere.Sure think they can look at a xray... Latest outcome....the dysplastic dog went from being dysplastic in July to OFA GOOD in October....He has a OVC certificate no. that hes free of elbow dysplasia...Ofa still thinks he had djd grade one..dont know if I will do more xrays with OFA....I have always loved the OVC...either your good or your not......I had DJD in my right hip...If my dog had it I would know it cause he would be in pain and limping....Before you throw the baby out with the wash GET A SECOND OPINION. Patty Szymczak ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================