In a message dated 11/21/2004 9:35:02 PM Central Standard Time, RihadinK9@xxxxxxx writes: As others have mentioned, look at the "width" of the pedigree AS WELL AS the depth. OFA makes that easier now too with their database. +++++++++++++++++++++++ This is not necessarily a reliable factor either. If I don't keep it then a puppy gets sold as a pet. My pet people don't exray and I certainly don't ask them to spend the money it would cost to do so. There fore looking up my dogs and the ofa cite would make it appear as tho the relatives have poor hips because there is no ofa number Sally The House of Nasdaq ROM Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex http://danann.netfirms.com http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================