I did both. I spoke to Kathy Potter at the Trenton Futurity. Naturally at a Futurity, e-1 is busy, grooming, showing, socializing. Kathy asked that I put my suggestions in writing, and the following week I did just that and e-mailed them to her. I remember the request for suggestions going out to the list numerous times BTW. For the record, I thought allowing owners to enter/show dogs as many times as they wished in F/Ms, coupling the shows over 3 days for a mini-national (outdoors where available!) would be the way to go. I based those thoughts on the (worsening) economy, folks being unable to fly dogs easily and a host of other factors. I suggested a point system, (like horse of the year) when tallying various titles. JMO Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 3/2/2011 10:46:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 3/2/2011 5:29:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx writes: it is interesting that those who did write suggestions were all individuals who attended futurities. many of those who had a "fit" when the plaques were initially pulled, neither attend nor enter futurities. Therein lies the problem. Those who attended futurities are a small percentage of the membership, who still have a right to opinions in the running of our club. And those who wrote suggestions are only a small percentage of them. Years ago it was suggested that only those who attended the national vote for judges. I liked that idea but it was pointed out to me that the opinions of all members should be considered. I was wrong to allow only a limited number control our club. Our club is composed of about 3,000 members, (or so I was told). How many suggestions were in those suggestion boxes, who compiled them, what did they say, and was that what caused the decision to eliminate the plaques? If so, then it clearly didn't represent the desires of our membership. If you limit who you ask, you will limit the response. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================