In a message dated 3/5/09 7:27:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: We can't use the 4th place judge? We can't use any judge that shows dogs? Beats me! More questions. Look, I think the idea of having a show at the national, (other than the national show) is interesting. If we used the fourth place national judge then if one of the national judges is unable to finish his/her assignment, the fourth place judge would not be available. Since it is possible all three judges would come down with lime desease before the show, we would have to hold off using the next three judges. So, the judge for the show at the nationl, (NTN) (not the national) would be whoever got the 7th best number of votes. But, if we use a judge that was on the national ticket, then they can't show that week under any other judge, or can they? Also, since the membership didn't vote for that judge as the top six vote getters, to do the national, is that someone we want to judge a show? (I acknowledge that the position on that question is stupid, only the best people get nominated to judge the national. Two that come to mind that haven't been elected are Bob Dresher and Randy). I also wonder about handlers. If we use one judge, from the panel, none of the handlers who have shown for that judge, or are going to show for that judge, can handle at the show, but can they then handle at the show the next day. I notice in the BOG there is a new AKC rule about showing under a judge whose name you have uttered within 45 days of a show, if after the show, you have any physical contact with the judge beyond a fist bump. So, the handling police will have to work overtime to make sure no one violates that new rule, and we may have to enact even another punishment. Maybe we can say they can show and judge a future national, but any shows done in conjunction with the national show, they can only show dogs they co-bred, or co-own, with the national judge, but not the other show. So many new rules, and restrictions, and so many questions. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================