Wow, and WOW: Evan and I never agree on anything political, but in dogs we are on the same page. I have no problem with people sending their dogs with handlers, trainers. However, when I can't see my dog win or lose and interact with the other people at the shows, new and old, I will give it up. This game is still fun to me. I hope it stays that way until Nadine adds my cedar box in the special closet with all our past special ones. And oh there are so many of them. Bob -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELG440@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:10 AM To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Not without me In a message dated 1/28/13 9:54:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Poppycock. (I always wanted to say that.) Even though I LOVE dog shows, more than half of the money you've calculated would be saved, if you gave the dogs to a handler before the shows. SURE, you wouldn't get to see your friends and stay in a motel and go out to eat, and have FUN, but you would've saved money. But it isn't about the money, is it? It's about competition and love for the breed and yes, some EGO is involved. Better to be there and hear what slings and arrows are being tossed, than to stay home and hear about them later. It is different for me. I love to see my friends and make new ones. I get to see all the dogs, not just mine. I get to laugh and tell a few jokes, to win and lose, and to enjoy a weekend out. I never did understand sending your dog with someone else to show, then get a phone call. I love the social side of the dog shows. I remember Hal Kantor. He would see a dog in the Review and buy it. Then he didn't want to see the dog until it was finished. I never got that, but we did discuss it. It was another way to enjoy the sport. I don't mean to denigrate those who send their dogs off to be trained, to be shown, and then to come home when they are finished. I just get so much more from dog shows, than winning. To me it is a social function, and a chance to learn from others. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================