In a message dated 1/30/2007 12:22:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx writes: I was about to post that Robert's Rules supercede our By Laws and P&P, and that closed sessions with ballots are proper , While I seldom disagree with Helen, I do here. The reason clubs and companies set up By-Laws is to allow them procedures outside Roberts Rules of Order. Only when the By-Laws are silent on a point, do you turn to an outside source such as Roberts. In this case it seems Roberts would apply, but we can pass By-Laws that allow our club to be run in a manner inconsistent with Roberts, if that is what the members want. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================