In a message dated 2/27/12 8:42:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx writes: Most of the white show GSD's look more like GSD's of years ago with more of the square look. You need to go to some of their shows. A few years ago I judged the White National. Powerful dogs, looking like ours of today, but the males had more bone and overall better secondary sex charactoristics. I did feel they were lacking in front reach overall, but a few were more than I would ask for. The rears were good, temperment was exceptional and pigment strong. Black black eyes, noses and toe nails. The old theory that the white conformation is lacking sure was not what I saw. Maybe I saw an exceptional group. I think it was in Minniapolis, so maybe that is a good group. But, except for the color, I was blown away by the quality. I think Peggy has judged them too. Maybe she will share her opinion. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================