Good points all, Denise. I agree with you, yet I just joined the GSDCA for 5 more years. I do my own thing too. (Horses take up much of my time.) Love the dogs, hate the back-stabbing, but I have always been thick-skinned and laughingly think that if all people have to do is to talk about me, well, let 'em. LOL I love the dogs: Black dogs, white dogs, bi-colored and sable dogs--GSDs all! I don't care that the club doesn't need me; I don't need it either. But I still want to be a member. It's a puzzlement. Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever And that is the problem. There is little respect going around. It has nothing to do with having a bad attitude because I'm not winning. Actually I have points and majors, so I am winning something. It would help to play the game more often too. And I don't particularly care if I'm popular. I am not an attention seeker. What I don't care for is being snubbed, tricked, lied to and lied about. Sure it happens to everybody at some time in all aspects of life. I control the interactions I can when I can. Membership is something I can control, so why stick my hand in the fire to get burned? I have several things on my plate, time gets divvied up in certain ways, so it's the interpersonal ties that bind people to an organization. I'm not getting that vibe, but the opposite. "We don't need you here" is the general feeling that's out there in the GSD community, and perhaps in all dog showing. That's cool. I have other things to do with my time. Denise Williams www.foursquaremicrofarm.us Sabian Shepherds and Rush Hour Rabbitry ________________________________ From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> But, I respect their right to disagree with me, and be wrong. Evan L. Ginsburg ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================