They are a separate Breed in Registries around the World. Think about it....if they were a separate Breed...those that love them and also like the Standard colors could have two different dogs to show the same day .....they could also have both their own dogs meet in the Group. <G> I do NOT see the down side. Seems better than a DQ or a serious fault defining your dog?? There are more than a FEW DQ's that share the same DNA as GSD's. The "history" is that they were never a preferable choice....ever. It's that way in quite a few Breeds. We're the only Breed playing out this Standard fault for over 50 years. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com On Behalf Of AGray40366@xxxxxxx Re: separate breed ? I don't know, the reason I would oppose it is because they have shared pedigrees, registrations, DNA, and history and were initially a part of the foundation stock in the formation of the gsd breed. Besides I was naive enough to believe everything I was told about them being defective, mutants and needed to be euthanized. I should have done the research instead of taking everything I was told by "experts" at face value. I need more Missouri in my DNA, I didn't ask "show me" enough. Now I am certain they are same dogs that I have in my back yard and related to the ones I've been showing for 30 years. I see separation as a loss for both sides. Ann Gray In a message dated 10/28/2013 4:24:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, coloradogsdrescue@xxxxxxxxx writes: So what I would like to know is why any GSDCA member would oppose the whites having a separate breed . I think that would be a wonderful thing for both the Black and tans and the whites ?? Connie Palmer Williams - Executive Director German Shepherd Rescue of Central Colorado http://GSDRColorado.com <http://gsdrcolorado.com/> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================