[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Not a country, but a style

  • From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
  • To: myjoygs@xxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:50:25 -0400 (EDT)

I think it's two separate subjects.  It's important not to get "over  
dogged" on either side of the pond.  There's no way, without a LOT of  kennel 
help or a huge family, a dozen dogs will be worked to their  potential.  Like 
it or not, for the benefit of the dogs, less really is  more.
 
As far as littermates, when keeping more than one beyond 8-10 weeks, they  
DO need to be separated and they DO need daily, consistent, critical 
one-on-one  time, or else they form a pack and their people may or may not be 
included or  even needed for mental stimulation. That's why I'll never sell 2 
puppies from  the same litter and prefer, at a minimum, a year's age difference 
between dogs  for a companion family.  That's also why I place a lot of 
very  finish-able dogs at 8 weeks.  IMO they are far better off laying on some  
child's bed that sitting in a run "growing out".
 
I really don't see the spookiness at shows that others seem to see, but  
if/when I do see some, it's usually a youngster coming from a situation where 
I  know there are a lot of dogs. These dogs just don't do well kept 
constantly  in runs. (And the longer I am around dogs, the more weight I put on 
environment  and not so much genetics). That's why I have house dogs and not 
dogs warehoused  in runs constantly. Sure, I pass on exciting youngsters, and 
it's  hard. Early socialization is critical and as soon as puppies can 
toddle, I  am taking them away from their box, individually, and they have new 
experiences  daily, one-on-one, not as a pack.  
 
As far as "correct" temperament, well I don't know that everyone will ever  
agree.  I think there are shades of correct.  What I might want for a  dog 
to compete with might be too much dog for a young family and probably not  
enough dog for someone else.
 
We have in the North East/Mid-Atlantic area several kennels selling imports 
 or first generation czech or "working line" German dogs.  Now, I have no  
idea if they really are, let's take them at their word.  What I do know is  
I get a lot of calls from people who have spent a lot of money, not only on 
the  original purchase price but later for a series of trainers and they 
can't handle  their dog (and somebody is going to get hurt).  I'm sure the 
puppy  starts out cute but then during adolescence the trouble starts.  Some 
dogs  are just too hard and sharp for a family, yet these breeders seem to want 
 to capitalize of the "badder is better" theme.
 
John Q. public with a family doesn't NEED a border patrol dog. A dog  
without an "off switch" is a real pain in the ass to live with and not correct  
by anyone's definition/standard.
 
So...I want a dog who is really into their people with an "off  switch".  I 
don't want to have to throw a ball every night for hours before  I can sit 
down to dinner or a dog who wants to torment the UPS man just for  fun.  
There's a happy medium between Golden Retriever temperament and  an horse's 
a*s.  I want mine to be a Golden Retriever with children though  and they are:) 
 By the same token, don't come in uninvited  <G>.  
 
 
 
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/  

 
In a message dated 9/3/2013 7:52:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
myjoygs@xxxxxxx writes:

This is  an interesting topic what does everyone think about this.  Is it 
true  that if littermates are with their siblings for to long that they react 
better  with other dogs then humans.  And I am talking about kenneling them 
 together for 4 months, 6 months.  Is it better to seperate them.  I  had 
in one of  my litters, a majority of them who were dominant and there  was a 
lot of posturing between them, which I nipped from the start.  I  ended up 
seperating them because one was getting picked on and becoming not  sure of 
itself.  Plus I noted that they rather interact with each other  and not so 
much with people.  They were fine with people but rather be  with their 
siblings.   
Thoughts/discussion????



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