I agree with Lyn. What I notice is that at times with our litters Tedi ill say, "they are getting to be too dog oriented, and we need more time ith the people". Then she will make sure a puppy spends more time with us, nd less with the other dogs. e find we want our dogs, be they for show, work, or pet, to be more bonded to the owners, then to the other litter mates. It has nothing to do with he temperament, or abilities but rather the way they react to who is the lpha. Is it the person, or another dog? This is an interesting topic what does everyone think about this. Is it true that if littermates are with their siblings for to long that they react better with other dogs then humans. And I am talking about kenneling them together for 4 months, 6 months. Is it better to seperate them. I had in one of my litters, a majority of them who were dominant and there was a lot of posturing between them, which I nipped from the start. I ended up seperating them because one was getting picked on and becoming not sure of itself. Plus I noted that they rather interact with each other and not so much with people. They were fine with people but rather be with their siblings. Thoughts/discussion???? MYJOY SHEPHERDS Joyce Willis -----Original Message----- From: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2013 6:17 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Not a country, but a style In a message dated 9/2/2013 6:36:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, herlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: o clarify my definition of "softer" so you have a better understanding of hat I am posting .... When you modify the correct temperament of the erman Shepherd Dog and continue to breed like temperament which has also been odified you will eventually produce a spook. agree with Lyn. What I notice is that at times with our litters Tedi ill say, "they are getting to be too dog oriented, and we need more time ith the people". Then she will make sure a puppy spends more time with us, nd less with the other dogs. e find we want our dogs, be they for show, work, or pet, to be more bonded to the owners, then to the other litter mates. It has nothing to do with he temperament, or abilities but rather the way they react to who is the lpha. Is it the person, or another dog? find we here in America want the alpha to be the owner, not another itter mate. hat is just from 40 years of showing, reading what I can, and judging them now and then. ot that there is anything wrong with that. van L. Ginsburg sgard German Shepherds ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/ here Type Movement and Temperament come together ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================