In a message dated 9/2/2013 6:36:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: To clarify my definition of "softer" so you have a better understanding of what I am posting .... When you modify the correct temperament of the German Shepherd Dog and continue to breed like temperament which has also been modified you will eventually produce a spook. I agree with Lyn. What I notice is that at times with our litters Tedi will say, "they are getting to be too dog oriented, and we need more time with the people". Then she will make sure a puppy spends more time with us, and less with the other dogs. We find we want our dogs, be they for show, work, or pet, to be more bonded to the owners, then to the other litter mates. It has nothing to do with the temperament, or abilities but rather the way they react to who is the alpha. Is it the person, or another dog? I find we here in America want the alpha to be the owner, not another litter mate. That is just from 40 years of showing, reading what I can, and judging them now and then. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================