[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Troll and change
- From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
- To: inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:37:27 -0700 (MST)
The best description of a correct shoulder I read in a long long time. Thank
you Carolyn and Kathaleen!
Kate Syssoloff
Rockannand
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From: "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx, "showgsd" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 10:26:16 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Troll and change
Our standard is good, but vague in many areas. It was written about sixty
years ago with little change since then. Many of our problems today lie in
areas not addressed, such as upper arm. When it states that the upper arm
joins the shoulder blade at about a right angle, it means that the upper arm
must return at the same angle to the ground as the blade. Since it does not
state this directly, many do not seem to understand this relationship.
We gain some-we lose some, but we must stress problem areas so that we have
nothing but gain/positive change.
Carolyn
Carolyn:
I totally agree, most do not understand this. The issue is.. most are not
willing to listen to what you or I or others have to say, because what we
have to say indicates that their animal has a fault -- and a majoirity of
people involved in this industry today look at admitting a fault of their
dog is a fault of themselves, and therefore it is unacceptable.
I also think that the biggest problem with the description of the standard
which is a block in the way of improvement is the word "obliquely", which is
often misconstrued and misunderstood. The Shoulder blade being "Well laid
back" or "obliquiely set on" is referring to a 45 degree angle from the
ground. People refer to the 2 finger rule and high wither -- (a misnomer..
since the wither is not the top of the shoulder blades themselves but the
bones of the spine) .. the whole purpose is to create movement that is far
reaching in the forehand. When you join an obliquely set shoulder blade
with a long upper arm of as close to the same length as the shoulder blade
as possible and the conjunction of these two bones is set at a 90 degree
angle, you have a right triangle and a superior shoulder. Fully extended --
the animal will reach far grabbing the ground. Assuming it has a matching
rearquarter and that rear quarter is able to provide enough forward
propulsion transmitted through a strong back to allow a superior forehand to
fully open.
We are saying the same thing using different words -- but we've seen what is
correct and what is not. Both of us are willing to stand by our opinions,
even if they differ slightly, and see the other as having merit. This is
also an issue with a large group of dog fanciers today. They cannot and
often will not see another opinion as relevant.
Again, I'm wondering why I'm spending time writing today, but I liked your
words and wanted to add to them.
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