[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: Thyroids....the silent culprit
- From: "rockannand" <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
- To: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:28:35 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
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From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx=0D
Date: 05/07/2011 10:57:41 AM=0D
To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Thyroids....the silent culpri=
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My repro vet, a breeder of various breeds, has breeders give Thryoid
medication if the test fails below a certain number. While that number i=
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still a NORMAL thyroid and would receive an OFA Certification, it is not
high enough, in her opinion, to conceive and maintain a pregnancy. This =
is
regardless of the breed of dog.=0D
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I can honestly say that when one of my bitches failed to conceive the fir=
st
time I bred her, even though progesterone testing was done and "ties" wer=
e
accomplished by a proven stud, she had me have her thyroid checked. It w=
as
lower than she likes to see so she had my put her on thyroid medication.=20
She has since had pups.=0D
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BTW - her Thyroid test would have qualified for an OFA number.=0D
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I recommend that any bitch who fails to conceive get a thyroid test done.=
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If that is normal, I would suggest confirming pregnancy by ultrasound and
then running a weekly progesterone test to see if her progesterone level
needs supplementing in order to maintain the pregnancy.=0D
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Barb H - PA=0D
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From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>=0D
To: nancy <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; zrockenstein <zrockenstein@yah=
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com>; InquestGSD <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Thyroids....the silent culprit=0D
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Yup...heard that too, that a reading on the low end of "normal" was too l=
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for a GSD.=0D
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athy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC=0D
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isit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)=0D
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n a message dated 7/5/2011 12:14:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=0D
ancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:=0D
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH ------=0D
I HAD ONE VERY EXPERIENCED REPRO VET TELL ME, A NORMAL READING OF THYROI=
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OR MOST BREEDS IS NOT NORMAL FOR A GS. HE WENT ON TO EXPLAIN THAT GS NE=
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HIGHER READING THAN OTHER BREEDS TO CONCEIVE AND MAINTAIN LARGER, HEAL=
THY=0D
ITTERS. THE 'NORMAL RANGE' THAT IS OK FOR MOST BREEDS CAN BE A CONCEIVI=
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ROBLEM FOR GS ACCORDING TO THIS VET.=0D
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rom: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
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n Behalf Of Zoa Rockenstein=0D
ent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 7:16 AM=0D
o: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Thyroids....the silent culprit=0D
I can only respond to the behavior and allergy issues. I witnessed an=0D
ussie (15 yrs old) viciously attack its owner. The dog went for her fac=
e,=0D
nd it was pretty scary. The owner said this had happened several times =
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he past couple of weeks and that she was getting the thyroid checked. I=
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hought to myself that no dog of mine would be coming home from the vet i=
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e had even one such episode, but I kept my mouth shut. Not my dog or m=
y=0D
usiness. Sure enough, there was a thyroid problem. The dog was treated=
,=0D
nd the behavior stopped. More than a year later, there have been no=0D
ehavior issues.=0D
With regard to allergies, I don't know. One of my girls tested normal f=
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hyroid (other two have not been tested yet), and she is itchy and has fo=
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llergies to wheat and corn. She missed on her last breeding. When in=0D
oat, though, she has a gorgeous coat. Maybe I will have the thyroid=0D
hecked again before the next breeding. Thanks for the post,=0D
lleana. Something to think about!=0D
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Dr. Zoa Rockenstein=0D
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ome of Multiple Group Winner GCH RiverRock's Hotel California (Callie)=0D
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From: "InquestGSD@xxxxxxx" <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>=0D
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:30 PM=0D
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Thyroids....the silent culprit=0D
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I had the most interesting conversation today with a dog person. He=0D
nsist=0D
>the biggest reproduction problem our breed is having has to do with low=
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thyroids. It appears low thyroids are to blame for all the skin and=0D
oat=0D
>problems, allergies (that may not be allergies after all), and troubles=
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bitches getting pregnant, and even behavioral issues.=0D
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Do you agree?=0D
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Would you breed a bitch that has thyroid problems?=0D
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