bob, if you read the original post, i said that the number of total litters nominated is UP by almost 20%. the percentage of FREE litters (of the total litters nominated) is DOWN. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds _Skatiebug'z_ (http://skatiebugz.shutterfly.com/) The online store for everything German Shepherd and then some! _http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com_ (http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/) Skater's Blog In a message dated 8/14/2011 6:46:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx writes: I'm surprised that the number of free are down with the econonomy being the way it is you'd think they'd be the same or are breeders breeding less Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich. Owner Barkalot's Felonious Assault AKA Brat and the other half of B'N'B 9-10-1997 to 12-19-2004 Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN 3-25-2002 to 6-18-2009 Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Bob Grady <bobgrady@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Bob Grady <bobgrady@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: The BHI award To: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx, d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 11:11 PM Diane, I was not questioning your figures. I was just wondering if it helped with the number of entries? I am to lazy to go back and do the research. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx [mailto:Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:06 PM To: bobgrady@xxxxxxxxxxx; d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [Norton AntiSpam][ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The BHI award the figures are 100% true and, if you or anyone else wants the exact breakdown of figures and percentages, i would be more than happy to send them. i am talking ONLY about litter nominations - there are no FREE entries so actual presence or absenteeism has absolutely nothing to do with the Purina Alliance. i can't begin to explain why someone enters and then does or doesn't choose to show - that is strictly up to those individuals. the ability to double enter this year may have created the illusion of greater numbers of absent entries. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds Skatiebug'z <http://skatiebugz.shutterfly.com/> The online store for everything German Shepherd and then some! http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com <http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/> Skater's Blog In a message dated 8/11/2011 2:47:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bobgrady@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Diane: If everything you are saying is true, and I have no doubt it is. Over the years it seems that there is always about 50% absentees. Seems this year it was greater. Having judged one this year and looking at some of the rest it looks (without doing the math) the show ups were not as good. Guess my question is: How much did the free nominations help? Bob -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:50 PM To: d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The BHI award that is absolutely UNTRUE, evan. we had more litters nominated last year than the year before and, this year, we are up approximately 18% in nominations from this same time last year. and ... before anyone asks ... the percentage of FREE nominations has decreased. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds _Skatiebug'z_ (http://skatiebugz.shutterfly.com/) The online store for everything German Shepherd and then some! _http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com_ (http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/) Skater's Blog In a message dated 8/11/2011 12:25:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I will vote for the decision to take away free litter nominations. It was instituted to increase Futurity entries. It seems to have slowed down the trend of less and less litters being registered. Evan Ginsburg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This entire issue may be bigger than a board decision or the fees charged. Measuring simply by the drop in litters nominated may be a little short sighted. September AKC Chairman�s Report contains a sobering assessment of the AKC� s registration situation. Registrations numbers have dropped 53 percent since 1992, from 1.5 million to a projected 725,000 this year. AKC wants to blame a large part of this on "paper only" registrations. While that is having an effect, there are other factors. 1. The competition of other registries, - paper only registrations. (As above) 2. The economy - we have not bred a litter simple because we cannot afford to right now. We never make money on the process. 3. The Animal Rights forces have increasingly sponsored laws that make it virtually impossible to breed. Example: Las Vegas, NV & Clark County, in which it is located: All dogs must be neutered or spayed by three months of age unless they are 'certified' as a show dog. You see the problem. They cannot be a show dog until they are six months old and having brood stock who do not show is thus illegal also... Obey these stupid laws and the entire world is pet free in one generation. 4. Lower membership might equal fewer litters from members - ya think. 5. Etc. So, there are many reasons that litter nominations are down. Thankfully, trends do not always continue at the same rate indefinitely - I think it is called the bell curve phenomena or something like that. But if they do, our sport is doomed along with pet ownership by the general public. We have some major issue ahead of our sport, and I only hope that we can find a way to stop the trend or at least slow it until my days are over and my interest in GSD is fulfilled at the bridge. All that to say, Evan has a valid point. Free nominations may have increased as a percentage of the available litters to be nominated. Just an observation.... Dave ===========================================================================P OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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