I don't seem to have that problem either. People stop me in the street to ask me if I have any puppies. and Chopper has a lot of rear. I went to a local vet to weigh Chopper. On the way out, the receptionist said to me "it's nice to see a good shepherd, with the right angles, you don't see that much anymore." I train at an all breed club, and haven't had a stray comment yet. People I meet do seem to think showing is an elitist sport, and in a way, they are right. To do it big, and to do it well, you do need disposable income. This hasn't stopped me, but it sure is slow going. Denise W. The Good Ole Boys~Chopper and Chase http://www.showgermanshepherds.info for show and performance (join my site ring-follow the link) ________________________________ From: Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 4:09:01 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: No place for us How odd!! I have not run into that at all. People at work want Harley puppies. People at the all-breeds constantly come up telling me how they grew up with GSD's, how wonderful and smart the breed it, etc., etc. Hardly a weekend goes by that someone doesn't ask me where to get a dog "just like Harley." One local paper has done two articles on him; one other local paper requested an interview, but, would not give me the right to see it before publication, so I denied the interview. People do tend to come up and think Harley is German or European, and I think these people have a poor perception of the American show dog, and I do try to explain to them the differences. Those people are always surprised that Harley is all American show lines. People at the local PetsMart store are always impressed with his show wins. Many complete strangers in town, and at dog shows, say that they will look for Harley Davidson on tv when they next watch Eukanuba and Westminster. I can't think of anyone being negative about pure-bred show dogs in my circle. One of the people at work asked me what I was doing this weekend. I said I had the weekend off, no shows. She asked me if I would bring Harley to the dog park near her home! She thinks he is beautiful!! All-breed people are the MOST supportive in the game. They frequently tell me how nice it is to see a GSD that looks like a GSD should look, and doesn't have his tail tucked, or doesn't walk on his hocks, who doesn't have a sway back, etc. I think it is dog show people who have a poor perception of our breed; the public seems to love them! The public is very pro-dog, in my experience. And, they do seem to like good dogs who look like what they are supposed to look like. This isn't just a Harley brag, either, as I have had these same compliments and comments on Ch. Diana, and my Gable son, Asgard's Romulus. I guess I just am around different people than you two are?? Who knows? Paula, 154 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047, DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:16:21 -0700 Subject: Re: No place for us From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> Sam, I can relate to this , upon one occasion I had a person who found out we show dogs say with clear distaste, "Oh I would never want any of them CHAMPION dogs". (Her grammer, not mine) Our dogs face a poor public perception. Our fancy faces the same. On the other hand I was heartened to see one day, taking our Ch. Levi to Hunter's elementary school, (he loves kids) a little girl in Hunter's class , THROW her arms around Hunter when she found out Levi is a Champion and Group Winner. Her excited words were... "You mean he's won a GROUP like at Westminster?" I could have kissed the kid, lol, Hunter was dually proud and with head held high proclaimed, "Yes he has , and I"M going to show him one day". I had to smile. Hope springs eternal. Kathy ------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 5/9/10 9:50:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I think this is a case of the "pot calling the kettle black." Whenever I go to the dog park and tell people I show my dog, whether it is the specialty ring or the allbreed ring, they think it is an elitist endeavor. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4be86803b4f1b417977st02duc ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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