Evan with all due respect to you , and other judges like you. We are not talking about the difference of structure between German and American dogs...not sure how that came up? The problem is judges AREN'T ousting dogs from rings Specialty, AB or Nationals that are dyed. Maybe fear of reprisal? When I see dogs at a National being DYED IN THE OPEN , and these dogs go Select, then clearly, the buck doesn't stop with the judge. I am not saying it was the judges' fault, but if we mandate no drug no dye, then the judges don't even have to worry about it. It is FRAUD. It is easily remedied. It will not be popular at first , because so many people do it. But it will make certain that our dogs are as honestly represented , at least at a National level , as possible. I can find no good reason to protest, or to nay say D and D testing....please give me good reasons as to why not. Respectfully, Kathy Tank http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com Home of : CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WEBSITE PUP-DATED SEPT 22, 2008 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================