There are soft nylon muzzles available from every doggy catalog. I will not ENTERTAIN breeding a bitch or helping to get a bitch bred (mine or anybody else's, no matter what the owner says, no matter if she's been bred before) that isn't wearing one.....I even bring my own for my own bitch when I bring a bitch somewhere else to be bred. I won't take a chance (with the ability of an owner to hold a bitch) on getting the stud dog or me bit. I don't need a dog's eye put out, or a piece of an ear missing and I really don't like getting bit myself. I won't use tape. As soon as the dog is turned I hit the release snap on the muzzle, and the muzzle is off. I have had the occasional bitch who decides she's finished with the whole deal after a few minutes try to snap at that point, but by that time I'm sitting there holding her and she doesn't get the opportunity to bite. Cute story though, but don't take a chance again. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 9/16/2009 9:26:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Had a bitch I co-own in today for a breeding. He other owner tries to "manage" her head and gets himself bitten. We got masking tape and he proceeded to put it on his arm to protect it from the dog. Needless to say, we had a good laugh as I explained it was for the bitches mouth as we did not want to be chewed up either! Sometimes!!!!!! Mary ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================