[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: New Subject!!!! FAULT JUDGING
- From: "William Gish" <gsd001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:48:58 -0400
John - I certainly agree with your thinking, having seen so much of it over
the years. I think the major reason for it is that many breeds have, and
more used to have, lists of characteristics which were rated on a numeric
scale by the judge, who would then total the points for his placing of the
dog. Many breeds dropped the list when AKC published the mandatory format
for breed standards several years ago, but amoung the older judges there
are still many who follow the same old scale. Of course, using the rating
would recognize the good dogs, but sort of within a box, and the truly
superb examples were retarded by the practice.
Bill Gish, gsd001
> [Original Message]
> From: John Ayotte <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 7/9/2006 2:02:24 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: New Subject!!!! FAULT JUDGING
>
> I do not think that "fault judging" has anything to do with a judge
> have a pet peeve that they cannot tolerate (although that is
> certainly a form of "faulty" judging).
>
> To me, fault judging is the type of judging that is based on a check
> list of the faults identified in the standard. The dog with the
> fewest faults from that list wins. The trouble with this is that it
> it seldom coupled with a checklist of VIRTUES called for by the
> standard. As a result, the virtues are ignored by a fault judge. The
> trouble with this approach is that the dog without significant faults
> may also be without significant virtue. Lack of a fault is not
> necessarily a virtue.
>
> "Subjective" virtues (to tie this back into DD's original question)
> are often lost in the glare of "objective" faults in the eyes of a
> fault judge.
>
> I'm not saying that all virtues are subjective, and all faults are
> objective. I'm still sorting out those elements of the standard in my
> mind :-)
>
>
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