Geez I must be way out in left field. While I've always appreciated the dogs that go out there and "ask for it" in the ring, I never seriously thought the shows were about rewarding "better showmanship!" I thought they were about rewarding the dog that most closely CONFORMED (as in conformation show) to the standard. No one wonder I haven't been winning as much as I'd like to! Just sign me not a judge and no plans to be one -- and I guess that's a good thing! Susan Casey Erynbrook German Shepherds and Front Range German Shepherd Rescue ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================