They are larger than they look. You would be hard pressed to do anything in the show ring with a 27 lb male Pem, just as you would a 24 " shepherd. However, they are more like a German shepherd than any breed I have been around. My husband called our Pems our condominium shepherds. The main difference: the focus for shepherds is their people, for Corgis it is food. Carolyn ________________________________ From: "Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx" <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> To: proudk9@xxxxxxxxx; helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 3:52 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Your Opinion Just read the standard for Pems.....27 lbs for dogs, 25 for bitches. They look as though they would be heavier. I know everyone says they will eat anything in sight so maybe I have never quite seen the standard. LOL Molly In a message dated 7/4/2013 3:44:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, proudk9@xxxxxxxxx writes: A Corgi I'd think: but probably a Pem since they're closer to the 20# mark or under where a Cardi is well over that (too bad I like Cardigans more than the Pembrokes...) ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================