[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Some Help Re: Movement
- From: Jim Barnhart <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:42:31 -0800
I'm sorry I added that line because after posting it I realized it
was ambiguous. The key phrase was "relative to their competition".
I am not criticizing judges or today's movement. I see a lot of
judges able to pick the best moving dog in a group of dogs. Many
judges can pick out the one who best conforms to the Standard: is
most balanced, has the best mid-piece, extends well, covers the most
ground, etc. My point is I don't see the elastic, cat like motion I
described. Gait has changed. Is today's movement incorrect? I am
not saying it is. I say I prefer a different kind of gait than what
I see in the ring today. That is why I said I did not want to get
into a debate. The top winning animals we see today are not
necessarily incorrect, they just gait differently in my opinion than
the movement I described in my post. You say the dog that covers the
most amount of ground with the minimum number of steps...how could
there be a question? Well, yeah who doesn't know that? A dog can
have correct conformation and be a good mover relative to other
contemporary dogs and still not move in the way I described.
Correct conformation as form does not necessarily lead to function
when it comes to suspension.
On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:59 PM, RivendellP wrote:
> Jim Barnhart posts...
>
> The best moving animals relative to their competition have always
> and will
> continue to win.
>
> Paul adds...
>
> Alas Jim I wish that was true. You and I have known each other for 20
> years...and in those 20 years the Standard has remained the same.
>
> In relation to motion I believe the Standard sums it up better than
> anyone...The dog covers the most amount of ground with the minimum
> number of
> steps. That is so easy for me to understand and visualize in my
> mind. If dog
> A takes 30 steps to go to point Q and dog B takes 20 to get to
> point Q...how
> could there be a question?
>
> That said...there are far too many who can't see dog B accomplish the
> requests of the Standard and seem to overlook dog B's conformation.
> I say
> conformation as it is true that function follows form and if the
> form is
> incorrect...so will be the function. The body must be in balance in
> order to
> achieve the requests of the Standard.
>
> Judges and interested parties should attend a herding trial or 20.
> Once you
> see the dog moving "off leash" as the body allows it to move...a
> vision of
> motion is obvious...correct or incorrect.
>
> Paul
>
>
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