Mom's Cuz dog in his time, and my Bucko now both hate(d) crates. Bucko sees it as demeaning to his royal alpha-ness. And when there was a bitch in heat and he had to be contained in my absence, he started to destroy my 600 wire crate. I am not pleased. But if pressed he will go into a crate and remain there, as long as it is not the big comfy wire crate but the smaller 500 shipping crate that he can't get out of, yet..... He won't even nap in one. But he is not allowed on any furniture. The few times he has gotten on, my kids!!!!!, he has also found reason to mark, so the kids have learned now to keep dogs on the floor lest they take privilege. Bucko will accept a crate at a dog show though. He seems to have no problem with that as long as his alpha-ness sees no reason to protect, at any distance. What a dog!!!! sheila --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Beryl <arelee_1020@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Beryl <arelee_1020@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Help/crates To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Elsyd1@xxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:43 PM All of my dogs past and present have liked their crates. When I lived on acreage I had a crate room, and a number of crates, and if the dogs were in the house they often would go to the crate room and into their own crate. I now have one dog. She has a bed on the floor and also a crate in my bedroom. She chooses where she is going to sleep, often it is in the open crate, sometimes on her bed and occasionally on my bed (she is a bed hog...LOL) A story about crates that I sent to the list a number of years ago. This has to do with people in general thinking crating dogs is cruel. We were driving home from a dog show. We stopped at a drive in to order some food. We happened to park next to a big rig. The driver of that truck gave us some dirty looks as we opened up all the van doors, and he could see the dogs crated. I stayed at the van while my husband placed the order. When my husband walked back the trucker made remarks to him about the dogs and how cruel we were and he should report us . My husband was angry, but he kept his cool. He told the trucker, "I see you have a big rig and a big load on your truck". The guy said " Ya, so what?" My husband continued with "you also have your load tied down. These dogs are my "load" and they are important to me, keeping them crated is the way I keep my load tied down." The truck driver quickly seemed to loose his anger and then apologized. I guess he learned something new about dogs in crates that day. Beryl Eshom Arelee Davis, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Elsyd1@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Help >I have three dogs in the house..one sleeps with me, the others only want to > sleep in their crates. Come 9 pm, they are driving me crazy, nudging, > whining, > nagging, breathing on me heavily! Only going into their crates makes them > happy. Syd > > > In a message dated 12/2/2008 1:54:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Most experienced breeders and owners agree with you, Paulette. > Even with dogs loose and crate doors open, my dogs have always (for more > years than I want to admit to) headed for their crates when they want to > Nancy is wrong...but probably due to inexperience. snipped > Peggy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ngxotic@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:04 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Help > > >> "Nancy Godwin" <ngxotic@xxxxxxx> writes: Dogs living in crates. Howl >> CRUEL is that. There is always >> a price to pay eventually. Nancy G. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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