AMEN !net Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need Help The person that posted the original question never said she crated her dogs all day and all night...in fact she said that there was someone home with the dog all day. Years ago people didn't use crates because only one member of the household worked, their dogs were kennel dogs or tied on a chain to their dog house all day. I think the introduction of crates has created a whole new generation of dog owners who are able to have house dogs without worrying about whether their house will be destroyed and their dog will be dead from whatever crap they managed to eat during the day. Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Nancy Godwin <ngxotic@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Nancy Godwin <ngxotic@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Need Help To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:09 PM When I said it is cruel to crate a dog I was not referring to dogs that spend "some" of their time in a crate, but all day and then all night. I have seen a number of breeders that do this. As far as being inexperienced Peggy, I have raised and shown German Shepherds since 1954 and bred the 1965 Grand Victrix and finished several others. I had a kennel with a building and large exercise areas. Years ago people did not crate their dogs like they do today, hours and hours on end. The only time my dogs were crated was at dog shows and I never had a dog that liked a crate. Nancy G. ===========================================================================P OST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================