I do not believe in nuturing a bad dog.......but I do think that if you let a dog fall back on it's natural instincts, stop humanizing it and let it just be a dog; many bad behaviors will modify themselves. I have no time disposable attitudes. Not being willing to deal with problems is just pure laziness to me. Yes there are bad dogs and yes some need to be put down but it's important to recognize the difference manmade problems and a brain that is not wired correctly. I don't think Cesar says he can train any dog...he just says no dog is too much for him. He tries to give dog owners the skills he has so they can keep their dog despite it's problems. I know that there are dogs living at his training center that are never placed.....they may not be too much for him...but most people could not handle them. Cindy Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: If any of you watch the "Dog Whisperer" then you know he always says that no dog is too much for him to handle and that he can train ANY dog. How do you guys feel about that? Do you believe that ANY dog can be trained?......or that some are just hopeless cases? We've all seen him on TV work with fear biters and even aggressive dogs. How about some of the dogs that "Dog Town" takes in and works with and turns them around to be good citizens? I've told a friend of mine who owns a mixed breed dog that some breeders will put a dog to sleep that displays this kind of temperament. Her respond was she didn't believe in that and that ANY dog can be trained with time, patience and a whole lot of love. So is she and the "Dog Whisperer" correct? Nature or nurture? Can the nature of some of the "beasts" be tamed by lots of nurturing? Best, Barbara __._,_.___ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================