reply: no, in fact each bitch had THREE chances...this post is from someone that DIDN'T win...are you surprised? ****************************************************** I was not even entered but I also was not happy with the amount of gaiting the bitches were allowed. I see all breed judges at all breed shows gait them more than this and lets remember this was our NATIONALS. I think everyone that had a bitch entered has a valid complaint and should all send their bill to Helen. When you spend about 5,000.00 to condition, hire a good handle pay your expenses to get there and get 2 laps around the ring I am sorry but I cannot buy into that. I go to the Nationals to see the animals and enjoy the show. THIS IS A DOG SHOW but this one I really regret spending the money I did to go. IT WAS BORING. I like to see our beautiful animals gait all of them but especially all those beautiful bitches that were there. Lee Brown ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Listers: When you have a judge that KNOWS what they are looking for....has a procedure that is superior to most, is able to judge the dogs in the correct amount of time....you are raked over the coals by those that are unable to do the same. The bitches had three times to perform. The dogs took longer because I was hunting for my Grand Victor. I think there are actually some who are threatened by the fact that I know what I am looking for and am decisive enough to be able to make the call where they are not. I stand behind my winners...they are great ones. Did I miss a couple, probably....but I really did the best I could and it was done with only love of the breed and 40 years of knowledge. So those that care to attack me because they don't have the ability to sort out the good ones in a timely mannor...be prepared that I will always stand up for what I believe. Helen Franklin Founder of AOE ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================