Me too. I also don't understand splitting the 12-18 class into 2 classes. If the goal of a "working class" is to get more "performance" people into the breed ring, I think we just have to hammer that form equals function equals form equals function equals....route. And maybe some will even recognize when a dog is built right they say sounder longer to do the job they were intended to do. (Maybe?????) I get a lot of calls for puppies from performance people and there are quite a few featured on the photo gallery of my web page, but I can't begin to tell you the times when I've gone into pedigrees, bone, pigment, breed type, etc. on a litter and I hear "I don't care, I want to do agility, herding....". Well I damn well care!!!! WHAT an insult!!! Anybody who knows me knows that I am equally at home in both rings, BUT I also want to have, structurally, a VERY GOOD DOG in either ring (and pretty..Ok I'll admit it, they need to be pretty lol). Heck, I want a gorgeous dog walking with me in the park or laying in front of the fireplace. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 3/11/2011 7:12:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx writes: I think this is an excellent idea as well but wonder about the logistics, schedule, space, etc. Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com Home of Working Champions ----- Original Message ---- From: Oak&Carrie Smith <osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 5:46:03 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National "Working Class"..... Diane Brantley wrote: "What do you think about having a working dog class that is open to dogs with high level performance or schutzhund titles? " Carolyn answered: >I like that idea too Diane! > > Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.Marhaven.com > I really like that idea. Maybe even a separate GSDCA conformation title just for dogs out of that class. :{) advanced titles only? who knows. I'd vote for Monty as first Grand Victor from that class. :{) Oak Carrie & Oak Smith Oak Ridge German Shepherds Dedicated to the German Shepherd Dog Signers: GSDCA Breeder's Code of Ethics www.oakridgegsd.blogspot.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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