The Oregon national had a huge entry and the facility was 15 minutes away from the show site. An easy drive. I wanted to photograph the Ranch work but it was dark by the time they got to it. The only snag with the trail was that the owner of the facility owner wanted to charge the volunteers to condition his sheep for C coarse. Those involved in C coarse though it was stupid that we had to pay to train his sheep. The herding chair waited too long to commit to the C coarse sheep that were available. Those sheep were leased to another club for their national. You snooze you loose. The Albany Oregon site would be one of the few that could host all the venues and I am sure it is still one of the cheapest to rent. It does not make Oregon any easier to get too. I have a question for someone in the know. What is considered reasonable rent monies for the national. 5,000 per day 10,000 per day? I am guessing that most of the revenue from the Conformation portion of the national comes from reserved seating and stall rentals and not entries. What is reasonable rents? Terry --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National Length Change? To: dan-ann@xxxxxxxx, carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx, campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx, cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 10:26 AM In a message dated 10/27/2008 12:21:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dan-ann@xxxxxxxx writes: Can anyone tell in in the last say 8-10 yrs what nationals we have had that herding was on site?Having a booth I never get out to see anything- Maybe these are the sites the PC should be considering revisiting Sally www.embroiderybysally.org The only one I can recall onsite was Perry, and its not available. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 ph 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont (recording secretary), Life member CKC "The greatest discovery of any generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitude"-William James **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics ? check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redirhttp://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================