Why wait until the dog finishes. I can think of nothing that conditions a dog better than herding. I plan on herding here at home on Sunday then leaving on Monday for the National with the same dog. Just don't tell my handler. :o) Cindy Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Carolyn wrote: When your dog is a top Show Dog........and a great Herding Dog....there is no feeling like it. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com That is so true! When your dog finishes, take him/her herding! It is worth the drive and the price of the lessons. When Callie finished, we started herding, rally, and obedience. She goes to 3 classes a week. We needed something to do between finishing and the whelping box. True, we have to drive 90 min each way, and lessons aren't cheap. But Callie loves herding like I love conformation. It's a fair trade for what she has given me and will give me, hopefully, in her puppies. Some basic obedience is required in herding, so these classes work well together. I agree that it is a real shame that herding is so far from the rest of the National this year. The distance makes it impossible for me to attend the herding this year, and I am just sick about that! Perry was so great in that you could walk right outside the conformation ring into the herding area. We might as well have separate Nationals if the events cannot be located in close proximity to one another. And, I would hate to see this separation. More folks are putting performance titles on their show dogs now, and that is a great thing! We need to continue to encourage that by making sure that folks can compete in multiple venues at one National. I think this consideration is more important than geographic location. Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com ________________________________ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================