I have shown under Carmen twice. I got a four point major reserve on my open bitch at a very competitive show and she was out of coat at the time. I got a Reserve on my open dog to an excellent solid black dog who finished easily.I would definitely show under him again. A judges politics do not bother me as long as they are kept out of the ring. Carmen has done many good things for the Breed over the years. He got caught in an AKC battle this past year and mistakenly carried it into our club. It was very unfortunate and it upset me a lot because I have always liked him. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:11 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National Judge To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Every time I've seen Carmen judge, he's put up some top quality > winners. I don't buy all the allegations on the list and don't > believeCarmen has ever knowingly done anything he thought wasn't in > thebest interest of the breed. I con sider him very knowledgable, > fair and good with the dogs. I also disagree with the attitude that > anyone who comes to a different conclusion than I do is evil > incarnate - an opinion obviously held by a lot of members of > this list! > > Whether or not I enter a dog (or bitch) at the National will depend > on whether I feel my entry is competitive and whether I have a > handler that can show him to advantage - I wouldn't pull a dog > I was planning to enter out of on fear of becoming the next victim > of the list! > > I always said I'd quit showing when it stopped being fun and all > this nastiness is getting me fast to that point. For the first time > I'm ashamed of the GSDCA - not because of Hunte or "Yes > voters", but because of the hatred and vindictiveness; and > acceptance of using character assassination, personal attacks, > boycots and threats to "influence" the board instead of persuading > through reason and information. > > Now I'm going to do ano ther mass delete of poison pen > posts and go to the Obedience club meeting - where people > support and encourage each other instead of stabbing them > in the backs! > > > Janice Buchanan > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now > offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ===================================================================== ======= > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS > RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE > IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT > THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST > MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A V IOLATION OF LAW. > VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at > admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ===================================================================== ======= > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================