Hello All! John .... That was an excellent post! Yes there are many that enjoy and participate in the performance events as well as Conformation. I for one came in on Sunday to do Herding Instinct Monday, the Temperament Tuesday, Conformation on Wed. (Puppy class), watch a friend / club member in Rally on Thursday and then my daughter's dog in Obedience Friday. And yes this is my choice. However if the National was shorten then I would have more choices to make. Such as what do I enter and what do I NOT enter because of conflicts. As it is, if you wish to see both Conformation and Performance you have to go back and forth because of the time slots, the good side is they are all in the same building. I am not for shortening the Nationals and I feel there are many more that may feel the same way. To those that only want 3 days, come on Thursday! And BTW .... many years ago when the classes were larger and the duration was shorter, there were not as many performance events offered, only obedience on Friday with the Temperament Test on Tuesday. There was no Herding, no Herding Instinct Test, no Agility, and no Rally and no WDA events. Which events would be eliminated if the Nationals were shorten to 3 to 4 days? And how would that support the 2006 slogan, "Encourage not Discourage" (think that was what I read). If we are truely promoting the "Total GSD" then we need to promote ALL the eventson both sides. Just my opinion. Linda Chernak -----Original Message----- From: MASSTANA@xxxxxxx To: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 01:05:17 EST Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National- How Long? In a message dated 11/8/2005 9:58:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes: > The one thing that I heard over and over from members after it was annouced > > that I was on the board was "shorten the Nationals". I think it is easy to > say > that members want it to be no more than 4 and some even say 3 days. The > long > Nationals are not only hard on the people but also very hard for the dogs. > > Lee Brown > Congratulations on your Board election. With regard to your comment above, I would think that the only people who say this ( 3days or 4 days) are probably only conformation people who could care less about recognizing the rest of the GSDCA events that we, theoretically, support. For the majority of the conformation people who come to the show, the Nationals is a 4.5 day event. Late Tuesday thru Saturday. If we get big entries the days will be totally exhausting. They are bad enough now. With the decline in handlers, having two rings going together will certainly reduce the entry and/or result in dogs being shown by less than competent handlers with the resultant (automatic!) accusations that the judges only put up the "name" handlers. So my question to you is, if 20 people came up to you and complained that the show was too long, does their "squeaky wheel" complaints override the other 500 to 1000 people who didn't complain? I sincerely hope that your term as a Director is one that reflects the majority of our members, not just the vocal squeaky wheels. John V ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================