I left home for the national on Thursday, 27 October, and returned on Sunday, November 6th. I had 4 dogs with me. One was entered in herding at the beginning of the national. I believe it is absolutely CRITICAL to our German Shepherd breed to have a "complete" national. We must have all the performance events and conformation events TOGETHER. Otherwise, people will have to choose which "national" to attend and few will be able to attend both. Yes, attending all the performance events and conformation events makes for a long time away from home, but it is easier for those of us that WANT to attend everything than having to go on two separate trips. *I* HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CURRENT NATIONAL SCHEDULE, but below are some suggestions anyway. 1. Herding should be all breed (for income reasons). The best situation would be for it to be AT the showsite. If that isn't possible, then it needs to be within an hour (preferably 30 minutes) of the showsite. Herding should take place on Saturday, Sunday, & Monday. 2. Herding Instinct NEEDS to be at the showsite on Tuesday, run concurrently with the Temperament test on Tuesday and a CGC. 3. Tracking should be as close as possible to the showsite also (30 minutes would be great, up to an hour should be allowed). Tracking should be Monday & Tuesday (tracks are plotted on Monday.....the test is on Tuesday). 4. Agility needs to be a 2 day event. I like having the GSD only agility, but if we need to make $, it is an event which we could easily make all breed. If it is during the week, we'll still mainly have GSDs, but the additional "other breed" dogs that we have would just be profit. I would really like to see the agility entry fees more reasonable and if we have to have some all breed dogs entered for that to happen, I say let the other breeds in. I would like to see Agility continue to be on Wednesday & Thursday. 5. Rally could run concurrently with obedience on Friday & Saturday (having TWO DAY events for both of those venues). Or, run Rally concurrently with Agility one day and obedience one day (Agility on Wednesday & Thursday, Rally on Thursday & Friday, Obedience on Friday & Saturday). 6. Conformation CAN be shortened. I like not overlapping classes, but when we began "not overlapping", I thought the goal was to get the dog class checked in and ready to GO while the bitch class was finishing, so there was maybe 30 seconds to a minute between classes. By keeping our dog classes and bitch classes on the same days, we could actually continue this and pictures can be taken quickly. They really need to be IN the ring READY, though. I *LIKE* the current schedule for conformation classes and have NO PROBLEM with it staying the way it is, but if people insist on a shorter conformation part of the national, we could shift everything a day so that it ends on Sunday and not have a big *overpriced* Victory dinner on Saturday night....instead have an informal party on site (Lew's suggestion...IN the ring!) immediately following BOB. Or, keep the days the way they are (ending on Saturday), but start Futurity/Maturity finals on Wednesday a.m. and keep the classes IN the rings. There should never be a time that there isn't a class in the ring. This said, I enjoy shorter days (but more of them) at the national because this is when I get a chance to visit friends that I only see once a year and roadwork or play with my dogs. The national isn't just about showing....it's a convention where we all get together to meet & greet. We maintain/renew old friendships and make new ones. I remember nationals in the past where it was so rushed that we didn't have TIME to do that. Julie Degen P.S. comments on the dinner to follow ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================