Hi Christine, I sent out a following post stating that i completely misunderstood the role of the Nominating Committee(I thought we were talking about Nominations for judging the National) and as such my original post was not valid. Hope that clears up the confusion. Bill Unfortunately retractions are not always that effective on the list, now i can understand how Dennis Rodman feels like<G> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Grainger <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>; Jastek5@xxxxxxx; DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:17:46 -0500 Subject: NOMINATING COMMITTIEE I agree with Kathy's post and will take it one step further. we have a handler running for an office position..is that a problem?...the original poster doesn't mention this as a conflict of interest. Handlers have been tied to the whipping post for too long. They can't judge futurities..unless they are willing to agree to not handle at any other fut...this applies to their spouses too. Yet..judges can exhibit..and then the next weekend judge a futurity..to me which seems to be the greater conflict of interest??? Same applies to the fact that we have a person on the nominating committee that is judging the National..this too could be perceived as a conflict. You think a handler being on the nominating committee is a conflict...will let me give you the heads up..not ONE person the handler nominated received the nod from the other committee members..yet nearly all..if not all.. the nominees given by the one judging the National..got approval...need I say more???? C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> > To: <Jastek5@xxxxxxx>; <DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/31/2005 6:42:09 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] was Nominating Committee / handler > > > > In a message dated 5/31/2005 1:02:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Jastek5@xxxxxxx writes: > I find it curious that professional handlers are > allowed to be on the Nominating Committee? I by no means am implying that > they are > not without integrity, but it seems to me since Professional handlers in > many > cases make their living from this, it would be wise as an obvious and very > direct conflict of interest to exclude them from being on the Nominating > Committee. Can anyone clarify this???? > > > Hmmmm...let's see....we don't want judges, we should exclude handlers, what > about anyone whose ever bred a dog, had a stud dog, sold a puppy or shown a > dog??? or who might want to do so sometime in the future??? Goodness, we > wouldn't want to think folks were trying to curry favor in those situations > either....oh....wait....that's the entire club isn't it? > > What a lot of nonsense and innuendo! If you're not happy with the way > something is going, step up and volunteer. I've NEVER had an offer to help > refused! > > I was speaking to a friend last PM and we both agreed; those who are happy > with their dogs and the general direction of their breeding programs, who > experience some measure of success are too busy enjoying their dogs to be > pointing suspicious fingers and looking under rocks for conspiracy theories. > > It is a glorious morning in SE PA. Time to work a dog I'll keep an eye out > for black helicopters though (TIC) and let you all know if I see any:) > > Kathy > three generations of Champions live here! > > > visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ > (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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