[ SHOWGSD-L ] My final post for the night...aren't you glad
- From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:54:19 -0400 (EDT)
I have one simple question for any and all Board members who were at this
last meeting:
If indeed a new contract was signed with Purina, who signed it?
Now remember, I do not want opinions or your thoughts, if you do not know,
do not attempt to answer.
I realize that not all the Board members are on this list, so I will
address this question to them individually as well. ...Pauline (calmer but
still riled...you have all heard of the "perils of pauline" have you not?)
Pauline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/)
Ropaja German Shepherds:Member-GSDCAmercia & GSDCAtlanta - Best In Show
AKC JAM/AOE/ BISS CH Ropaja's Chateau Beaujolais OFA HIC; BISS AKC CH
Ropaja's Chateau Beaulieu OFA HIC; Our future: AKC BISS & GRP W CH. Ropaja's
Je
Suis Fleur De Lis; AKC MJR PTD Ropaja's Je Suis Gabrielle.
In a message dated 8/6/2010 7:20:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
showgsd-l Digest Fri, 06 Aug 2010 Volume: 04 Issue: 1444
In This Issue:
#1: From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Subject: Sit, stay
#2: From: Lindenhill German Shepherds <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Membership roster?
#3: From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Subject: I heard it on the Grapevine
#4: From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: THE AMATURE FUTURITY
#5: From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Amateur Futurity, commentary by an expert
#6: From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Subject: Name your perversion
#7: From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx
Subject: trimming your emails
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Msg: #1 in digest
From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:44:05 EDT
Subject: Sit, stay
In a message dated 8/6/10 12:41:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dan-ann@xxxxxxxx writes:
What it shows is that one group is trying desperately to make others look
bad. Threats and intimidation are becoming common
Would anyone like to address the story that someone stood up at the board
meeting and threatened to sue the club and the board if they put Margy's
law suit on the parent club page? It is public record anyway, so why
would
anyone do that.
I won't name names since I support that person for the board and like him
very much, and also I only heard it from two board members. But, what the
hell is going on?
Someone needs to expose all the threats, hostile attitudes, mistakes, and
misfeasance, and do it in an official capacity so that we know the truth,
and not rumors.
Evan Ginsburg
Asgard German Shepherds
http://www.asgardgsd.com/
Where Type Movement and Temperament come together
------------------------------
Msg: #2 in digest
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 22:42:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Lindenhill German Shepherds <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Membership roster?
You can also print it from the members area(where it is current)
http://www.gsdca.org/images/pdf_items/member_roster_201003.pdf
regards,
M
** my personal mantra - constantly resist being put in a box - of any kind
**
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amy Greenhut" <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jovonkennels@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2010 4:30:19 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Membership roster?
Michelle.....it is in the June Review!!!!
Amy Greenhut
Justrock German Shepherds
Board Member Last Hope Safe Haven
http://lasthopesafehaven.com
Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises & Tortoise Rescue
Behold The Turtle, He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out
A Quote By James B. Conant
----- Original Message -----
From: jovonkennels@xxxxxxxxx
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2010 8:34:59 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Membership roster?
Is there gonna be a printed version of the membership roster?
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
===========================================================================
POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the
original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of
any
kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of
the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY
MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS
PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY
FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE
PROSECUTED.
For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org
NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the
original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of
any
kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of
the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY
MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS
PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY
FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE
PROSECUTED.
For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org
NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
===========================================================================
------------------------------
Msg: #3 in digest
From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:50:26 EDT
Subject: I heard it on the Grapevine
In a message dated 8/6/10 1:37:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx writes:
always wondered what it would be like to be a Board member now I know. I
wouldn 't last 2 hours before I told someone to screw themselves.
It does take some thick skin.
When I was on the board, one of the women ended up crying most of the
meetings.
I heard one of our current board members did stand up and tell someone or
maybe everyone to go to hell at the last meeting. Now, that is not the
same
as telling them to screw themselves, but that person is a hero to me.
Maybe that board member would like to let us know why that happened?
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Evan Ginsburg
Asgard German Shepherds
http://www.asgardgsd.com/
Where Type Movement and Temperament come together
------------------------------
Msg: #4 in digest
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:55:23 -0700
Subject: Re: THE AMATURE FUTURITY
From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx>
It appears from your survey, Nancy, that all 6 responses were basically
unhappiness with judging.
Am I wrong or should the Amateur Futurity winners be required to have an
amateur on their dog at the National? Otherwise I can stick an amateur on
my
dog at the futurity, with only a few to compete with, and hire a top
handler
at the National. I don't think that's right.
I think most objections to the Amateur Futurity would go away IF the
Amateur
Futurity was AFTER the regular Futurity.
Ken
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, WEBMASTER <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> FROM Nancy Harper
>
> The Board HAS NOT VOTED regarding who will pay for the Futurity Plaques,
> many Board Members are NOT IN FAVOR of requiring the Regional Clubs to
pay
> for their plaques and ribbons. I CERTAINLY AM NOT AND WILL SO VOTE.
>
> Contrary to what is being said the amateur Futurity does not cost hosting
> clubs a lot of money. Amateur judges are REQUIRED TO PAY THEIR OWN
> TRANSPORTATION, the hosting club is required to pay for one dinner, one
> breakfast and one overnight. Most Amateur judges, in the past, are also
> exhibiting at the regular futurity and must stay overnight anyway and DO
> NOT CHARGE THE HOSTING CLUB FOR THE ONE OVERNIGHT. These amateur judges,
> many of whom, want to apply for their license, gladly pay for that
expense
> for the opportunity to add one more match to their qualifications.
> Regional Clubs have the option of selecting an amateur judge who will be
> at the Futurity anyway & THIS ELIMINATES the overnight expense. . Many
> oppose the amateur, ASSUMING THERE IS A LARGE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, which
is
> not the case and basically many do not really know the policies & assume
> there will be expenses which in reality do not exist.
>
> In 06 a survey was taken among some of the members WHO BREED BUT NO
> LONGER PARTICIPATE IN THE FUTURITY SYSTEM. They were asked WHY? We
> received the following responses.
> 1) It is not a 'level playing field.
> 2) given a limited budget they opted for point shows, as they did not
feel
> they have a chance at the Futurity.
> 3) You cannot win without a handler.
> 4) handlers are generally spoken for and if you are a small breeder or
> newcomer you are 'out of luck'
> 5) There was frequently bidding wars for handlers which excluded them
> 6)They had 'given up' on having to compete with top handlers.
>
> In my view, we need to INCLUDE the winners of the amateur in the finals
at
> the National to eliminate extra time spent on a separate venue.
>
> The Board voted this down in July. .
> The amateur dogs/bitches are to be judged on the DOG not the handler,
this
> is not meant to be Jr. showmanship and those dog/bitches winning should
be
> allowed to be presented at the National by A PRO also.
>
> The amateur was meant to attract NEWCOMERS who will get out there and
show
>
>
> We need new blood, what other suggestions do members have? Let's hear
> them. we have never had a true base line for evaluating the amateur
> because REGIONAL CLUBS opted NOT TO HAVE THEM; they were under false
> impressions as to the cost and effort associated with offering it. So how
> will be ever know if the amateur will take off and improve the
> participation & bring in new enthuasitic young people? The grounds are
> already there, the ring is already set up, there has not been a need to
> raise money for the little medallions they receive., Purina paid for them
> like the regular plaques. We use to begin Futurity judging at 8 AM due
to
> the huge entries? So we complain if the Amateur begins at 8 or follows
> the regular Futurity? I fail to see how this is a big chore, if I am
> missing something please let me know so that I might include that in the
> equation/ AKC started offering the concept of the Amateur classes after
> the GSDCA began offering them. All breed clubs are beginning to see an
> increase in those classes. If we don't offer it we will never know if it
> will work. Carol Moore, Lew Bunch, Molly Schneider, Bart and Cindy, Ann
> Schultz have all seen new comers participate in the Amateur and now they
> are believers. Bart will tell you he was originally opposed.
>
> Nancy Harper
>
>
------------------------------
Msg: #5 in digest
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:12:26 -0700
Subject: Amateur Futurity, commentary by an expert
From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
*
Many many people are against having the Am Fut. There are a myriad of
reasons, and like the Healthcare plan,
that has been rammed down the collective throats of America, the Am
Futurity
seems to be a an idea who is
widely opposed by many, yet despite that , it still remains.
My opinion may not matter to those in charge, I am after all just one of
the
"little guys"....just one person
but how about someone that is a renowned judge, and the quintessential
student of the breed?
Read below, right from his mouth.
"The amateur futurity is a dead man walking**. Itâ??s time to admit it is
similar to the conditional class - a great idea in theory but in reality
less than thrilling.."*
This was stated by Dave Rinke in his interview.
I believe he is absolutely, 100% dead nuts on. But is anyone listening????
Kathy Tank
*http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com*<http://www.victorygermanshepherds.co
m>
PUP-DATED: JULY 20, 2010
*Home of:
CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs
CH. Victory's Leviathan
CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle *
*
"Victory... There's Something In a Name"*
------------------------------
Msg: #6 in digest
From: ELG440@xxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:16:03 EDT
Subject: Name your perversion
In a message dated 8/6/10 1:49:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cyndy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I've been going to board meetings off and on for a long time and = try to
keep up with what's going on. Is that a sin?
No, but from what I am hearing it might be masochism.
Evan Ginsburg
Asgard German Shepherds
http://www.asgardgsd.com/
Where Type Movement and Temperament come together
------------------------------
Msg: #7 in digest
From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:19:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: trimming your emails
BRAVO Sue! I realize in the great scheme of life, that posting and
re-posting the entire fricking digest when you are responding to a post is
not
the worst thing that could happen; however, it is D*** annoying...Just my
personal opinion of course...
Pauline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/)
Ropaja German Shepherds:Member-GSDCAmercia & GSDCAtlanta - Best In Show
AKC JAM/AOE/ BISS CH Ropaja's Chateau Beaujolais OFA HIC; BISS AKC CH
Ropaja's Chateau Beaulieu OFA HIC; Our future: AKC BISS & GRP W CH.
Ropaja's Je
Suis Fleur De Lis; AKC MJR PTD Ropaja's Je Suis Gabrielle.
In a message dated 8/6/2010 4:57:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
From: "Sue Mazzeo" <Sue.Mazzeo@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Futurity Trophies
Certainly not. But not trimming your emails is. <BEG>
Sue Mazzeo
------------------------------
End of showgsd-l Digest V4 #1444
********************************
============================================================================
POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original
author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind
are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the
Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY
MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS
PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY
FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE
PROSECUTED.
For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org
NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
============================================================================
Other related posts:
- » [ SHOWGSD-L ] My final post for the night...aren't you glad - RopajaGSD
