Carolyn and All, What people also forget is that it is a PRIVATE list. Admin, although some don't agree with them, and from time to time I have not agreed with them, has the power to kick anyone off they like, or to shut it down for that matter. Listers forget that using this list, is a privilege, not a Constitutional right, lol. Have I been admonished occasionally? Oh sure, and probably deservedly, lol. But I also recognize the HUGE value in this list to ALL of us. It embodies HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE in the breed. That is a powerful base of knowledge, invaluable. While we all love "lively" conversations, and we are all passionate about our dogs, if we go overboard, or break rules, we will eventually be called on the carpet. We know this going in. (No, I am not in anyway inferring that Patty or Libby did anything wrong, because I really do not know what happened.) I sure hate to see valuable members of the List and the breed walk away. Fred are you listening? Tensions are running high right now. Please Folks take a breather, count to ten, or one hundred and ten, lol....and think twice about quitting the group.....there will be better days ahead. Let's focus on the NATIONALS. :-))) Kathy Tank On 10/8/07, Carolyn <marhaven@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I signed the same rules Terry. No problem as long as I follow the > rules. If I did not, I should get > tossed in a heartbeat......and I would have to admit I deserved it and > would even expect it. > When will we all realize THIS LIST IS US!!! WE are what make it what it > is!!! > > > ***** > ***************** IF IT IS UGLY........IT'S TIME TO GET OUT OUR > MIRRORS!! **************** > > **** > I don't personally see this list as a "cess-pool" that needs to be > cleaned up or I would check out now. > There are too many GREAT people on it. But if it is that > ugly.....guess how to clean it up.......<G> > Any bad language or attitude seems to be coming from those complaining > and using that language > towards the very Admn. who make this great List available to us. Even > accusing each other. Why? > Remember.....any bad posts are coming from those that post....and that > would be all of us!! > > > ***** > The COPYRIGHT rules are attached to every single post that comes through > this List...not just some!! > Carolyn marhaven@jps,net > www.Marhaven.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Cochran Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: My 2 Cents > > > Actually the very important things in life are that simple. It is always > the gray area that will get you in trouble. I remember that I was called for > advertising the Rightdog.com site on this list. It hurt my feelings and > yes I have found creative ways around it but I am living by that rule. If > you do something and get caught don't be surprised if you are punished. 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