I agree.? The discussion needs to end.? It is what it is.? I don't agree with the NFL's decision to let him play.? I will NOT forgive him.? I do not think he will change and we will be reading about him in the news in the future.? But, for right now, beating a dead horse on the List isn't going to make a bit of difference.? I am tired of hearing and reading about him and would just as soon not see his name on this list again.? Laura?? -----Original Message----- From: Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2009 2:08 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Mr Vick On 14 Aug 2009, at 13:53, Nancy Godwin wrote: A Leopard changes his spots too. This guy was born mean. He is playing the game he has to play as he is only sorry he got caught not for what he did to the dogs. <REPLY> In this country, he was tried, found guilty or pelad guilty (same difference), did his time and paid for the Crime I have no clue whether he was born mean, is mean or hates animals But there are some cultures where Dog Fighting and Bull fighting and Rooster figting are considered NORMAL and every day That does make them BAD people - they just were raised differently I do not care what team he plays for or doesn't play for - he PAID the required PUNISHMENT. I do not have to like him. I do not have Forgive him. I do not ahve find him a good role model for children. But I must respect the law of the USA where I live - which says he is a free man now. Free to work anywhere. A discussion on whether he is a good player, should play Football is best left to other lists As Baretta Said: Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Vick did 23 Months I think this discussions needs to ned ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================