I have never seen an albino GSD either, Jen. Like you said, if Mr. B actually meant albinos when making his points, I could readily understand his concerns. But it looks like he was, in actuality, pointing to albinos. Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever Plum My Guardian From Lloyd B's article: "While I have several times referred to whites as "colorless" dogs in this article, I myself have never seen a pure white German Shepherd Dog which was not an albino." IF that were the case where all the "white" GSDs were indeed albino, there would be a pertinent and founded reason to disqualify them from the breed. Had they been disqualified from the breed and not eligible for registration as a GSD with the AKC anymore, this would all be moot point today. I always get a chuckle at the then proponents of the DQ only went on the physical appearance of the dog (white hair everywhere), as the understanding of genetics didn't yet exist. We now know through the understanding of genetics that the white coated GSD is not an albino, but expressing the effects of an epistatic gene in its coat color (as they yet are solid blacks, tan-points or sables, ya just can't see it), and unrelated/unconnected to deleterious health effects. We now know there are deleterious health effects connected to albinism, and that albinism should not be perpetuated. I personally have Never seen an albino GSD- one with pink skin pigment and blue/pink eyes. "Lousy" pigment (not predominantly black noses), yes, but albino? Never. Funny enough, many a breeder of whites will tell you that having a colored GSD in the immediate pedigree (or as a parent) will actually RUIN pigment- both creating poor skin pigment and "dirty up" the whiter coats. Has anyone here ever seen a true albino GSD and would maybe have a photo of said dog? Just interested in seeing what that would look like, being used to seeing white coats with the striking black points (and often grey skin to enhance that white/dark contrast)... Jen P & her Pack ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================