In a message dated 11/27/2006 10:16:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, Maybe it's me.......but no one can ever convince me that we can wear out a German Shepherd Dog with our length of stride and two legs. <G> I've seen some of those shows at a slow walk for an hour and figured the Judge just wanted to eliminate the handler and go with the one that couldn't perform......or paced........ <G> ( sorry.........I digress .........and lose control of my own humor at times ) <G> "back in the day" ....<G>.......we had horses and I've taken dogs for miles and miles with me while riding the trails....down through the canyons, across the rivers and up out of the canyons and back down across the rivers and back out of the canyon and home....and have yet to see a dog "break down" and quit when it was doing what it wanted to do whether we took them for10 miles or 20 miles in rough terrain......but they all get more efficient in their stride once they settle in and quit chasing squirrels and birds.....<G> Our oldest daughter and son in law are endurance runners and they take their BOOKER daughter with them on 30 mile runs while conditioning for the Western States 100 mile run. MOLLY never quits. Her sire will literally herd for hours......and never quit....back and forth as he is holding the sheep on a C course as a reward when he does well in training. I do believe that our dogs can get very mentally tired of going in the same circle over and over while being called by their owner .........with a handler holding them back by the neck. Shoot........I'd get tired of doubling in an hour........<G> I do agree with Carolyn McKenna that the best dog did win more during those times. More dogs were breeder/ owner handled, or by thier own kids or handled by friends and people that just loved the breed and loved to show or handle. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com > ----- Original Message ----- > CAROLYN; I AGREE WITH A DOG LOOSE TO WALK AND RUN AT IT'S OWN PACE... IT CAN GO FOR HOURS... IN THE SHOW RING, A DOG WHO IS BRED FOR EXTREME EXAGGERATIONS, WILL NOT LAST OUT IN THE WOODS, NOR IN THE SHOW RING, IF WALKED AND WORKED...MANY OF SUCH CAN ACHIEVE A RAPID GAIT...BUT THEY CANNOT MAINTAIN THE WALK AND THE BREAKING UP AND DOWN OF CHANGING SPEEDS OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME... AN EXCELLENT SPECIMEN HAS POWER AND STRENGTH AND OUTSTANDING NATURAL MUSCULATURE AND STRONG CORRECT LIGAMENTATION AND SPRINGS OFF THAT REAR-END...IT DOESN'T DRAG, NOR MERELY FOLLOW BEHIND ....IT POWERS THAT DOG FORWARD AND WHEN IT IS BEING PERFORMED BY SUCH A PERFECT ONE, AT A WALK, IT IS BEAUTIFUL TO BEHOLD!! THE POWER OF THE SPRING AND FORWARD MOTION AND PERFECT COORDINATION OF THE ENTIRE BODY IS A SIGHT NEVER TO BE FORGOTTEN.. SOME MAY THINK OF A WALK, AS A FLAT, HEAVY-FOOTED ,PLODDING GAIT.. I AM TALKING OF THE WALK WHERE THE HANDLER KEEPS THAT DOG AT A PERFECT SPEED....WHERE EVERY PART AND PIECE OF THAT DOG MUST BE WORKING LIKE A PERFECT MACHINE....WHAT I CALL THE 'PANTHER' MOVEMENT.. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT REMINDS ME OF...WHEN THEY SHOW ALL THAT GREAT PROMISE OF POWER AT A WALK AND THEN AT A TROT , THEY CONFIRM IT... IT IS RARELY SEEN TODAY...BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENT FOR IT BY THE JUDGES, STOPPED...DUE IN MUCH PART TO THE AKC'S EXCESSIVE GAITING REGULATIONS... AND THE CHANGE IN THE MOVEMENT TO EXCESSIVE SPEED..FOR A MUCH SHORTER TIME PERIOD.. SUCH PERFORMANCES , ALWAYS MAKE ME THINK OF THAT OLD JOKE... ' IF YOU CAN'T BAFFLE THEM WITH YOUR BALONEY...THEN DAZZLE THEM WITH YOUR FOOTWORK." BARB WILLIAMS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================