In a message dated 10/29/2005 8:51:44 AM Central Daylight Time, Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx writes: Congrats you Guys, you know, I always felt that the DJD thing the OFA does is a way for them to say "we don't have a damn clue." Most think OVC is a more accurate read on hips and elbows. Esp elbows. I called OFA....and I talked to Dr. Keller who is very nice...he felt his elbows were fine...but what are you going to do, he wasnt one of the 3 evaluating the xrays.....OVC is the oldest veterinary college in North America...plus they return your xrays...I've used them before and I will use them again. I had 3 vets look at the elbow xrays...and none could fine what they call djd...except a little pano...will I resubmit in 6 mo. to OFA I really dont know. Patty ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================