Nancy Thank you so much for your informative post, it is answering some of the questions that already have been voiced and some not even posted yet. I think it will be a GREAT event, I can't even imagine trying to co-ordinate the manpower to do all that. I do think that the concerns about the financial commitment is legitamate, and hope that there will be more "transparency" regarding our true financial status. I know that you are not in charge of that, so this is not directed personally towards you. Some of the negative comments I think derive from not having all the info regarding our financial status and fearing this could truly be biting off more than we can chew. This should be a history making event, hopefully many GSDC members will be able to attend. Thanks again for taking the time to inform the membership what's going on so far. Sincerely Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA --- On Wed, 10/27/10, Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Missing the point !!!! To: vande001@xxxxxxxxx, "'Show GSD List'" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 6:40 PM It is important to know that the GSDC of America has lost money since 2007. We have not realized the usual profits from nationals as in the past and we probably do not have as many applying for membership as in the past. BUT I DON'T KNOW for sure about the number of applications, so please do not misquote me. Suffice to say, we have not realized revenue as in the past. However, the club is not IN THE RED in the STRICTEST MEANING OF THE TERM. We have money in the bank, and we are paying our bills. It is healthy that the members and the Board are very much aware of the need to be CONSERVATIVE and INNOVATIVE CONCERNING THE FINANCES OF THE GSDCA. Did you know one of the past Boards approved $70,000 to research? A 2011 BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE WAS APPROVED AT THE OCTOBER BOARD MEETING. We are already receiving, from the Chair of B&F, an outline of concerns and possible solutions. As for the 2013 Centennial event: We have developed a team of sub-chairs whose mission is the success of the Centennial which includes a large FUND RAISING EFFORT. As you know, there are 3 events in concert for 2013, National Specialty, Centennial Celebration AND the World Trials all taking place in Philadelphia. The combination of these 3 events provides the opportunity to attract many BIG NAME SPONSORS WITH DEEP POCKETS. Streaming video will be sponsored and we expect many people in German and other parts of the World to "buy into" streaming video of the World Trials. It is not unrealistic to project revenue of between $40,000 & $50,000 from streaming video alone. 1) Streaming Video (which will be sponsored) 2) Ticket sales at the Stadium to watch world Trials, especially on the weekend. 3) Catalogue Sales for the world trials 4) Advertising 5) Sponsorships 6) Vendor rental (There ARE MORE REVENUE STREAMS WHICH I don't immediately recall & I HAVEN'T THE BUDGET IN FRONT OF ME. The Chamber of Commerce, Visitor's Bureau etc are WORKING WITH US ON A WEEKLY BASIS. THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THESE EVENTS COMING TO THEIR CITY. YOU CANNOT IMAGINE THE SUPPORT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREA. This is a big deal We have an opportunity to add SUBSTANTIAL $'S to our coffers AND AT THE SAME TIME HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME CELEBRATING. We need to seize the moment. IT IS DISCOURAGING & DISHEARTNING WHEN WE DON'T RECEIVE THE SAME ENTHUSIASM FROM SOME OF OUR MEMBERS THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE POWERS THAT BE IN PHILLY. WE NEED AND WANT THE SUPPORT OF OUR MEMBERS. It is interesting to note that many of the negative comments are coming from those who are not even members, what is that all about? If they are not members why do they even care? Surely they are not trying to ruin it for the rest of us!!! I am putting out a personal plead as the Centennial Chair; If you are concerned about finances and the impact 2013 will have on the BOTTOMLINE of YOUR CLUB, THANK YOU for YOUR CONCERNS AS A RESPONSIBLE GSDCA member. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT QUESTONS BE ASKED RATHER than making false assumptions. You have my word, if you ask a question you will get an answer. Perhaps YOU have a better suggestion, let's hear it. We are TOTALLY OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS. PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL OR CALL AND FIND OUT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH WHAT is REALLY GOING ON!!! And what the REAL PLANS ARE. 'PUTTING ALL NEGATIVES OUT THERE AND STARTING A PANIC BASED ON FALSE ASSUMPTIONS IS GIVING ME A HEADACHE, LIKE BEATING ONES HEAD AGAINST A BRICK WALL. !!!! PLEASE DO NOT DUMP ON THESE PROJECTS IN A PUBLIC FORUM, WHAT WILL NEW PEOPLE THINK??? Enthusiasm is CONTAGIOUS, NEGATIVITY spreads like a creeping black death. If you don't like the German dogs, that's OK, no one is asking that you have one, breed one etc. If you don't like world trials, you don't have to attend, but please don't spoil it for others, keep it to yourself or at least keep the negativity off the public forum if you would please. It does not help the people who are trying to LEAD THE CHARGE to hear and read all the negativity from the naysayers. We are committed to the success of these 3 events. If you are concerned CONTACT SOMEONE WHO HAS THE FACTS, OR BETTER, why not ask how you can help make one or all of these events a reality. Would any of us really want the 100 year anniversary to come and go without notice? You are not going to believe the publicity and promos accompanying these great events. Thank you for reading & WATCH FOR A SPECIAL WEB SITE created for and dedicated to the 2013 100 year Celebration. Special thanks to Tom Brown who is uncovering the history of our club all the way back to the first President of the GSDCA and the first National Specialty, wait till you see what will be on display from 1913 to 2013. I just received a picture of Ernie Loeb as a 7 year old boy going to training class with 3 other boys and their German Shepherds, how cool is that? Also my thanks to Evan Ginsburg who is hard at work in CA bringing forth the History from the West Coast. Just received a DVD from him featuring GV Yoncalla's Mike, brother, Big Boy, GV Hollamore's Judd with Jim Norris and other greats of the past. The audio/visual program presented at the Centennial following the Banquet will be very SPECIAL indeed. The films of our breed performing in the Pacific, World War II, Korea, 9/11 are awesome. We have a breed that is continually dedicated to our safety and protection. DVD's of this historic Celebration will be available for members all owners of GSD's, admirers etc. won't you join in this celebration, our breed deserves all the recognition we can give!!!!! Nancy Harper-Mulvaney Board Member 2013 Centennial Chair -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cynthia VanDenBerge Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:32 AM To: Show GSD List Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Missing the point !!!! I am not sure about the accuracy of the statement that we are "in the red". Unfortunately I have not had time to look into it. It may be true, or not, but I will ask the questions for my own informational purposes. As far as the 2013 World Show....from a breed political point of view, it is very important. I am not sure what it would cost to host it if it were a single venue, but combining it with our 100th year celebration will raise the overall costs for sure. But, it is such a special time, and I am so excited to celebrate this great breed that I have mixed emotions about the cost and feel lucky to be able to be a part of a once in a lifetime thing. Cynthia --- On Wed, 10/27/10, myjoygs@xxxxxxx <myjoygs@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: myjoygs@xxxxxxx <myjoygs@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Missing the point !!!! To: hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx, cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 6:16 AM We are several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OLLARS in the red and no one seems to care. At least it appears that no one ares by the subject matter on this List. If the bleeding is not stopped we ill run out of money in a short time. If this is true and we are in the red, then what the heck are we doing hosting the World Team in 2013!!! I really have reservations about doing this. It will be very very expensive, can our club handle this? If we lose any more members, less dues. While the lawsuit is definately worrisome because it could also drain us more financially depending on the outcome, is it financially appropriate for the parent club to be hosting this event?? We are in a economic crisis right now, people, and business are cutting back to survive, will the club survive 2013???? Just something to think about. -----Original Message----- From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:16 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Missing the point !!!! Where is the missing money??? Good question, makes me wonder where the Dog riters association's alleged missing money is, as well as the rumor the AKC was issing some money as well. Not sure about what is involved with AKC, but did ead an interesting article not to long ago about the Dog Writers Association. mmmm.. could there be a common denominator????? Perhaps the GSDCA needs the ervices of a forensic accountant. ---- Original Message ----- rom: cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx o: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:03:11 PM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Missing the point !!!! We have been beating the GSDCA Lawsuit to death, While it is important it ales as to the question, "what had happened to the money ?" This club has lost oney every year starting with 2008. We are several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OLLARS in the red and no one seems to care. At least it appears that no one ares by the subject matter on this List. If the bleeding is not stopped we ill run out of money in a short time. Lets get our priorities straight and ask uestions like SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! 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