no one ever has been convicted in the press....in most states ( I believe Oregon is an exception)...it takes a jury of 12 in a court of law...folks are free to believe what ever they want, but don't blame the press for reporting things they report, and no I don't believe everything they print or televise...my question is do you suggest the press say nothing...in some countries they aren't allowed to say anything....those are places that I don't want to live...I'm pretty smart and I can usually make up my mind based on the information in front of me...as for Mr. Vick, unlike many of you I have be following the story for several months....it's a classic Duck Theory Case.....Ed Hill Ginger Cleary <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: All of which he denies, and hasn't YET been proven, only alleged. I certainly hope that no here is ever ACCUSED of anything. You better believe you will feel a trial is important then. I don't believe in convicting in the press with no trial. Never have and never will. Ginger Cleary,Rome, GA ww.rihadin.com The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse. ? James Madison Member GSDCA Member Sawnee Mtn Kennel Club GA Director Responsible Dog Owners of the Eastern States. -----Original Message----- From: MAJTEACH@xxxxxxx [mailto:MAJTEACH@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM To: cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Michael Vick In a message dated 7/18/2007 3:47:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Second, is there reason to believe, based on the testimony given that the defendant (in this case Mr. Vick) is guilty. I could care less about a trial at this point. The dogs were on HIS property, he has been to that property, he BET on dog fights, there are eye witnesses........ FRY HIM!!!! He made a choice to participate in dog fighting and in torturing dogs. He deserves everything he is going to get. If he DOES have any endorsements left after this......I won't buy a thing from that company and I WILL write letters. Colette ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================