You know Norma never did Mike or I think about the water bottle. He seems to do all his communicating by lifting his leg and crashing it into us. Then for good measure drag the nails down the leg. We have lived with this from the beginning. We have turned around, but he's there to greet us when we do that too...haha...We thought this has to be a GS thing...my other dog never does it. Lab..... Why I didn't think of the water bottle is beyond me. Another Xmas Present for me today:) Also, we can be sitting, s tanding, whatever..he always does it. Use to be cute..now it hurts too much....Thanks for the suggestion, Duh!! Never thought to do that. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Norma Ramey [mailto:gsdramey@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:19 AM To: d.beckman@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Merry Christmas Apparently he does this while you folks are - sitting down -- Where you sit, at each place, have a squirt bottle handy and as he paws the person's leg, they should immediately squirt in his face, sneaky-like and say NO -- if he's been trained concerning that word like so many are. Or, quickly do a kicking somewhere with the other foot so he'll be off balance and be quck with the movement. You say "We have lived with this for years" so, it'll take a bit of time I imagine to be successful. Hope these ideas help. Norma nl L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Beckman" <d.beckman@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:39 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Merry Christmas I have a good question to all you wonderful german shepherd parents..My GS has one of the worst habits, He beats us up everyday with his paw. Just hits us constantly..drags it across the legs, over and over again. We've tried everything. I know he is communicating some how.I ask out??? He runs to the door and goes out. Comes in and starts beating us up with his paw again. Does anyone have a clue why he is doing this..We have lived with this for years.but the pain in the legs is getting ridiculous haha..I made the mistake of teaching him to shake.he is carrying this to far as he shakes at our body..over and over again...Diane ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================