[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Make it STOP!! (long)
- From: Susan Madlung <stormygsd@xxxxxxx>
- To: MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:19:28 -0700
WOW!!! Jackie, I applaud you - you have nailed it to a post and hung it out
for all to see..
well done!!!
Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds
http://www.shadowacre.com
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Make it STOP!! (long)
> For the last week and a half I have listened to people BICKER about a
> magazine. A magazine for crying out loud! The Review is a GREAT thing,
we can agree
> on that, and Gail Sprock was a GREAT editor while she was well, we can
agree
> on that. Susan Casey is now a GREAT editor, I think we can agree on that.
> But we can't agree on anything else. It's disheartening and sickening.
>
> I don't remember when I joined this list. I do know I've been on it for
over
> a year, probably going on two. I've been a member of the breed for 7
years
> now, and in the general dog fancy for 4. I have learned a lot of great
things
> on this list, but I've seen a lot more fighting than comaraderie round
here.
> Also disheartening.
>
> Our breed is the greatest breed in the world, but quite frankly, we
probably
> have the most divided breed in the entire dog fancy. Their are divisions
in
> the breed, and amongst the people. We own a breed that is so fiercely
loyal no
> other dog can compare to it. We own a breed so versatile, as many times
as
> SAR, narcotics, and Patrol dog groups try, they always come back to using
the
> GSD as their dog of choice, because no other breed is as versatile as
they.
>
> Our breed can track, protect, detect drugs, search and rescue people, be
> therapy dogs, guide dogs, hearing dogs. No other breed has this
versatility, ours
> does. But the people....I love the majority of you guys, but I have seen
so
> much disloyalty, backstabbing, badmouthing, mudslinging CRAP it is no
wonder
> that people don't have an interest in our breed or our sport.
>
> The working line people think the showlines are weak nerved and too
refined,
> bred only for gait, and their character is lacking. The Am Line people
think
> the German dogs are coarse, too drivey, and have sh*tty movement. The
West
> German people think their dog is the perfect medium, because it passes
> schutzhund requirements, but isn't so high drive it can't live in an
average family
> home, and isn't so low drive it just wants to sit on a couch.
>
> The pet people think the show dog people are snobs, the performance people
> think the pet people don't know anything, and son on and so forth. The
specialty
> people think less of the all breed people because the all breed judges
"don't
> understand GSD movement". Malarkey! It drives me absolutely insane.
>
> In order for a person to be heard, they have to join the GSDCA. In order
to
> be taken seriously, they must join the GSDCA. In order to have any
imprint on
> the breed and "get in" with other breeders, they must join the GSDCA.
>
> That's not true you say? That sure is the message I got! I was
specifically
> told I wouldn't be heard til I joined. Well, I joined. Been 11 months, I
> still don't have my membership card. Luckily, Kathy Tank and Dania
Karloff were
> kind enough to help me on this matter and it's getting resolved. Thank
you
> to both of you!
>
> I'm more than willing to help ANYBODY around with puppy socializing and
> whelping anytime. I WANT TO LEARN! I want to be able to travel places
with other
> Shepherd people here in WI, and go to shows. I want to be able to have
> opinions without being considered stupid or novice, simply because I don't
agree
> with somebody elses assessment of a dog.
>
> I'm HAPPY to help hold dogs at a show or take a dog back in for somebody
if
> they need an extra hand. I'm HAPPY to simply help another exhibitor
exercise
> and potty their dogs when they need help. I am HAPPY to write in a
catalog for
> an exhibitor that is trying to watch and hold dogs at the same time. I am
> HAPPY just to be around dogs!
>
> A friend of mine up in Canada shows dogs. Her breed is Shepherds. Not
once,
> but twice, she's been ousted last minute as a handler for a professional.
> So, guess what? She is now refusing to show another Shepherd until she
gets her
> own. She loves the GSD, but not the GSD people. She stated that the
> majority are snarky, backstabbing jerks. She's going to find somebody she
really
> trusts for her next GSD and will purchase a puppy from them, but she will
not
> show Shepherds for anybody else.
>
> Our breed is lacking in juniors. Our breed is a hard breed to show, yes,
but
> that's not the only reason. I've asked more than one junior why they
don't
> want to show a Shepherd. The answer is rarely because they're a hard
breed to
> show....juniors love them because they're flashy and require skill to
handle,
> which they could show off. They say that at one point or another they
tried,
> but got nowhere.
>
> Our sport is shrinking. The fancy of dogs is becoming less and less a
hobby
> and more a job because people can't find majors, or because they have an
"all
> breed" dog instead of a "specialty" dog.
>
> If people would spend less of their time being insulted every time
somebody
> disagreed with them and more time listening to the other side, they might
still
> disagree, but at least they'd be enlightened! People do NOT like being
> treated as if they're ignorant just because they don't see how something
one views
> as beneficial they view as detrimental! Nobody gives anybody any credit
of
> intelligence!
>
> A judge doesn't pick your dog "They don't know anything about breed type
or
> movement!" Heaven forbid the judge just doesn't like your dog. So many
people
> leave the ring angry saying "How could they put up that sh*t dog.
Couldn't
> move for crap." Movement is important, but it's not the be all end all,
> especially if the dog isn't even doing any herding.
>
> I love this breed with such a passion, sometimes I'm moved to tears just
by
> watching my boys in the yard. Are they breed champions? No. Are they
Siegers,
> or V/VA rated? No. Are they national obedience competitors? No. But
what
> they ARE are two of the hardest working, friendy, family loving Shepherds
I
> have ever met, and they are a credit to their breed.
>
> It's not John Q Public that makes our breed look bad. It's us, with our
> crappy behavior towards others, and our "this line sucks, that line
rocks", and
> our "They don't know anything, rather than educate them, let's just bash
them!"
>
> For crying out loud, MAKE IT STOP!
>
> - Jackie
>
>
>
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