I certainly do agree with this. Many things have changed over the years. I don't think in general that people have finished a lot more dogs than they did 10 or 20 years ago, other than it takes less dogs for a major. Look at the point system in all regions, they are way down from what they used to be. Once upon a time a open class often had an entry equal to a 3 or more point major of today. There are majors being built often these days at all breeds. Some all breed clubs accommodate the entry by giving the exhibitors a decent sized ring and a judge who will appreciate the GSD. That certainly is a plus from what it used to be, majors at all breeds were few and far between in past years. I do think that entering a show hoping for a major takes $$ and exhibitors personal decision to stay home if the entry isn't big enough. I don't agree with taking unneeded single points, over and over again. On the other hand a great moving GSD needs the big ring, the specialty judge to finish with all majors. I don't think in that instance that doing this is taking a major away from another dog. A good one will finish, where ever, when ever. But there is no sense in accumulating 15 or more single points. JMOHO Beryl Eshom Arelee GSD Davis, Ca. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Show List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Majors/minors--what's the dif? > Well, finishing with all majors is often a fluke...unless they are all > specialty majors....it is possible to have 4 majors and not be finished, > and get that 4th specialty win to finish...especially if the dog won't > do under an all breed type at all............ but if you are beating > yourself to death taking single points at the all breed shows in hopes > of winning the Group, I think it's a whole different scenario, because > it's unrealistic and a little stupid. > Peggy > > Penny & Bill wrote: > > > In MHO there is a basic similarity--in that points are being taken > > from other dogs who need majors OR minors to finish. Both involve > > greed (of points.) > > Penny in NY > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================