[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: MYCOPLASMA, AGAIN

  • From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:55:41 -0800

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From: "Steve Grainger" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Mycoplsama without symptoms..really to me> means nothing..the main
 symptom being failure to conceive after several> breeding attempts. >>>>
I live in an area that has quite a few hound> breeders..they don't 
culture..their
 dogs are prolific..fertile and> vigorous...they are probably too "ignorant" to
 know about testing..or> "treating and breeding"..therefore in 
their"ignorance">>
sometimes ignorance> is bliss  C.Grainger   ( snipped )
               ****************************
Not when you are charging a stud fee, and the high expense that a bitch owner
invests in getting their bitch bred........and the time and work and effort 
that a 
stud
owner puts into getting the bitch bred.   We feel we owe it to the next bitch he
breeds  after the first one,  and the stud dog himself.

Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com

>>
>> > We have never tested for mycoplasma..and probably won't..I am
> confused..why
>> > does everyone one act like this is something new?   Mycoplasma has been
>> > around since the beginning of dirt..just like some of the other bacteria
>> > Cyndi flautt mentioned...we should question why we need to test for
>> > it..other breeds don't...so why do some dogs contract it in others
>> > not..could it be that we are in denial about auto-immune issues?
>>                        **************************
>> You're right......it has been around since before dirt along with many
> types of
>> normal bacterial within the vaginal tract.   What you need to be concerned
>> about is the "abnormal" growth of ANY of them.
>> MANY years ago we had a proven bitch bred to a stud that infected her and
> about
>> 20 other bitches with mycoplasma.   Co owner treated her extensively when
> we
>> found out.   Never could get another litter from her.  It not an auto
> immune problem.
>> Many reasons cause it to suddently grow out of control, and often some of
> the
>> reasons IS missuse of antibiotics, stress, constant exposure, etc.  It's
> very
>> contagious.
>>
>> After> all..mycoplasma like some of the other bacteria are
> opportunistic...the
>> > immune system has to be compromised for it to flourish..so the question
>> > would be in my mind..why is it flourishing and why only in some dogs?
>> > C.Grainger
>>          *************************************************
>> Some do manage to "dodge the bullet"  by not having a dog bred to
> theirs....or
>> kenneled with theirs that has it.   It's just that simple.   Many bitch
> owners have
>> been stunned to discover they do have a bitch with a high level infection
> and
>> some have been maiden bitches.
>> During the tie the stud is "exposed" to the extreme,  the abnormal
> bacteria is
>> deeply embedded deep within the dog.......he does not have the usual
> natural
>> cleansing that the bitch has, but just the opposite......and is more
> likely to be
>> rendered sterile than the bitch from exposure to some of these abnormal
>> bacterial growths....and some can even travel to the kidneys because it
> can become
>> so deeply embedded.....  plus a stud that is used a lot can be exposed
> over and over.
>> Other Breeds DO test for it!!   We work with I.C.S.B. who are also Bull
> Dog Breeders.
>> They don't even want to handle an A.I. or an implant if the bitch has
> mycoplasma,
>> and don't see any reason to bother with either,  with a bitch with MP as
> the bitch
>> won't conceive or whelp a healthy litter anyway.
>>
>> Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxx
>> www.marhaven.com
>>
>
>
> 


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