----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Grainger To: WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx Sent: 12/27/2004 1:56:05 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: MYCOPLASMA, AGAIN Dawnmarie..I don't know if you have a medical background or not... I am thinking you must not..or you would get what I was saying. first there is only one dog STD that i know of..Brucellosis..everything else is not an STD..so equating this to HIV is not reasonable. A cold is a virus..rhinovirus...it is not a bacteria..you contract the virus from someone else..it is not treatable with an antibiotic...a micro-organism such as mycoplsama is treatable with an antibiotic..ie doxycycline..you don't catch it like a cold..or an STD...it is there..under your fingernails..in the dirt..It is opportunistic...waiting for the victim to become immno-suppresed..so that it can grow and flourish..I will use mold as an elementary example...mold only grows where the climate and conditions are right..you get the picture. people who have HIV or AIDS are immno suppressed...yeast grows in their mouths...they have sores on their bodies, they more readily get pneumonia...they don't die of AIDS..they d ie from all the other micro-organisms that have taken over their bodies and are running rampant. Do you think that AIDS is the only immno-suppression illness? You can add diabetes, cancer, Lupus, anyone taking corticosteroids for extensive periods of time, hepB maybe C, anyone taking cyclosporin such as transplant patients, premature infants,the elderly,and those under stress and that have anxiety..the list goes on and on. As for dogs...we have auto-immune issues in some bloodlines...generally it doesn't show until the dog is older..so the dog could potentially pass along the gene for it well before the owner knows he/she has it. It manifests itself in many ways..the bad cases do show up early..other cases are rather benign...but the presence of mycoplasma, pseudomonas aregenosa, pastruella, strep(i think gram-positive) in large numbers coupled with the failure to conceive should be a red flag that something more serious COULD be lurking..ie cancer, or some form of auto-immu ne..I have seen many cases were bad cultures were indicative of underlying problem...it happened in my own bitch..she was always fertile...but her last culture came back with Pseudo. agrenosa..always her cultures had been normal..we AI'ed her...she had one dead puppy...she never conceived again..and within 2 years she died of cancer..in my opinion..the bad culture..the dead puppy...were all warning signs that something was going on that I couldn't see...so you can either ignore the signs..learn from the signs..be in denial..or whatever...but this is the cliff notes version of what i am trying to explain. C.Grainger ----- Original Message ----- From: To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 12/27/2004 1:02:53 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: MYCOPLASMA, AGAIN In a message dated 12/27/2004 11:05:07 AM Eastern Standard so why do some dogs contract it in others not..could it be that we are in denial about auto-immune issues? After all..mycoplasma like some of the other bacteria are opportunistic...the immune system has to be compromised for it to flourish so.. if a dog has a cold or happens to acquire in infection, or bacteria its got an auto immune problem perhaps? cant animals catch something just because??? maybe i read this wrong, and would like to understand this as i find health very important.. i am reading this as to say with humans "why do some humans contract pneumonia and some dont, could it be they have AIDS"? thanks for the help! Dawnmarie http://hometown.aol.com/wymargsd/wymargsdupdateyani.html Designs By Dawnmarie - Digital Photography http://hometown.aol.com/designsdawnmarie/home.html ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================