boy that is a name from the past - Bodo v Lierburg. my very first "show dog" was by him- talk about a novice person not knowing enough to buy a show dog. Bought her from an ad in Dog world. pencils for legs and a needle nose. made twiggy look mature. black and red and a great mind. talk about learning the hard way- second was dysplastic 3rd was crazy 4th had 15 reserves. 9 singles and my constant companion for 12 yrs nope no mentors back then but every mistake I made I remembered and never made it again.(made a lot of different ones) Sally www.embroiderybysally.org ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================